Test drove the #PV5 today and #Kia really has nailed it with this 5-seater van bodied #EV. The outer dimensions are almost identical to a Tesla M3, but there is vast amounts of space inside. Everyone can sit comfortably, loads of room for animals, hauling firewood, whatever. The interior is suitably utilitarian, which I like, and visibility is superb (apart from A pillars). I also dig the cyber exterior styling. It’s not fast, but what a package. And for that price too. Like driving the future.

Some downsides:

The stupid EU-mandated driver distractions are less prominent here than on some Korean cars, but they are still a bit awkward to turn off. Multiple taps and clicks. Versus one button on the new Renaults and Jeep Avenger. And I’d need to see if that obnoxious coffee break alert raises its head with a longer test drive.

Powered boot gates are always a bit pointless and it was pretty slow on this.

It seemed impossible to go direct from drive to reverse without using brake.

Also I’m sad the towing rate was only 1500kg. Really would need 2000 minimum. But Kia has a hit here. They’ve done for the EV minivan what Renault did for the small hatchback (with the Renault 5). A fun, affordable and uniquely styled vehicle that is easy to love.

They will sell many of these! This is what the VW ID.Buzz should’ve been.

@Setok
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@Setok

I have a new #EV3 and I fully agree about the distractions. Especially the distraction when it's telling me that I seem distracted.

Does the PV5 come as a 7-seater too?

@leffe @Setok

Self-fulfilling prophecy?

@leffe the distraction distractor is indeed hilarious. And EU mandated. Thank you Eurocrats :I

It’s really easy to turn off on the latest Renaults and Jeep. But not too tricky on the PV5.

The coffee break one is the worst though. Fought with it on the Inster and popped up in the Ceed too. You can’t turn it off!!! It asked if I needed a coffee break, 5 minutes after driving away from the shop. Ridiculous. Didn’t see it on this yet.

A 7 seater is coming out a bit later.

@Setok

Yeah, the coffee cup came up immediately when I had to swerve around snow drifts on a narrow one-lane road.

My car has a nifty heads-up speedometer display. I tried it for a minute, until the speed warning started blinking. Way too distracting. Too bad. I've put tape over the same blinking speed sign on the dashboard, but there's no way to do that on the HUD. I've also learned to hold in the mute button every time I start, to at least turn off the speed dinging.

I'm going to try covering a part of the magic eye, as suggested in this thread.

https://www.kiaevforums.com/threads/bings-and-bongs.15122

@Setok are you also considering privacy T&Cs of this cars/manufacturers? Ie.: would this car send and store all your moves? Can it eavesdrop? Does it have cameras? Only outside or also inside? Would it gather data from connected mobiles? Which data? Would all this data be send to remote servers? Would it be shared or sold?
It seems that modern cars are often most deregulated surveillance tools :/

@t0maz I admit to not having looked much into that. Mostly because car manufacturers don’t make that a differentiating factor. Some have privacy modes (at least Jeep and Tesla) where data isn’t sent to servers. But beyond that they all send data via closed protocols to their servers.

The worst is when the manufacturer decides to stop support for an older car, remote features cease to work with no consumer alternative.

A rare case of actually needing more regulation.