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Log rolls down stairs 🍉🌈May 26

@jeffowski said by a guy who is still posting to the world's largest child pornography website o. The planet.

He's right, but it hits less.

@fiend_unpleasant @jeffowski Try @QasimRashid then?

@log you might be missing the point. Posting at all on a child porn site is a problem.

@fiend_unpleasant Network effects are brutal for those in the communications field. Ultimately, those people have to meet the audience where they live, even when their neighborhood transforms into a degenerate sea of iniquity around them and they refuse to move. Posting abuse material is a problem. Posting political commentary is not, whether it be in virtueville or sintown. People *should* GTFO the former Twitter. I won't kick the ones who still feel like they have business there.

@log there is no reason to be on a child pornography site. Unless you enjoy child porn, being on a child porn site makes no sense.

@fiend_unpleasant I'm not certain that everyone would characterize X as "a child porn site". You can if you want. I would be more apt to call it a Nazi bar. One might enter, so as to alert non-fascist customers that the owner is a Nazi, and point out all the iconography and dog whistles, and try to convince them to visit another establishment, but it isn't an offense against me to be there. I have freed my mind from X. I don't go there, and I don't think about anyone who does.

@log the site itself allowed people to make child pornography. The users of the site created child pornography. How else should it be described?

@fiend_unpleasant As a pandegenerate site catering to all manner of humanity's dark impulses. It is *also* a fascist propaganda site, a disinformation campaign site, an ego-driven billionaire vanity site, a fallen social media site, a pump-and-dump scam site, an adult pornography site, a pointless waste of everyone's time....

And for some people, it is still Twitter, and their circle of follows and mutuals is not yet all monsters. I hope they get out okay.

Church of Jeff May 27

@log @fiend_unpleasant --

Testimonial Injustice (Epistemic Injustice)
Coined by philosopher Miranda Fricker in her seminal 2007 book Epistemic Injustice, this occurs when a speaker receives a credibility deficit due to the hearer's identity prejudice (e.g., gender, race, class, or political alignment). The listener systematically downgrades the truth value of the claims purely because of who said them, harming the speaker specifically in their capacity as a "knower."

Church of Jeff May 27

@log @fiend_unpleasant --

The Genetic Fallacy & Ad Hominem

In formal logic, rejecting an idea based solely on its source rather than its logical merit commits two related fallacies:

Genetic Fallacy: Evaluating the truth of a statement based entirely on its origin or genesis.

Circumstantial Ad Hominem: Dismissing an argument by claiming the source is inherently biased or compromised due to their circumstances, without actually refuting the argument's premises.

@jeffowski Logic is for debates. I am admonishing log for supporting (even if tacitly) the child pornography platform run by the billionaire son of a apartheid mine-owner, who is so inept at being a human that even sex trafficker Jeffery Epstein wouldn't hang out with him.

Church of Jeff May 27

@fiend_unpleasant --

If you are rejecting ideas based on the source, then you are not here to debate.

Buh-bye.

@log So you are not willing to say that a site that has a feature that lets/has let its users to create and disseminate child pornography is not a child pornography site, and thus it's users are not on a child pornography site?

Is this because you are in favor of the practice or because you are so morally corrupt that you are willing to excuse the practice?

@fiend_unpleasant No. I am not. And your false binary does not encompass the entire range of reasoning for that. It is because a shopping mall that is 0.1% hot dog restaurant is not a wiener stand.

If you keep up this line of argumentation, which is essentially dishonest and carries a tone of browbeating rather than open engagement, I will block you.

@log please feel free. I have no idea who you are, or why you chose to defend the asinine position you took.

Your defense is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your pedo-apologist rambling were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

@fiend_unpleasant You must have the statistics on this. What fraction of X.com site traffic could be considered CSAM or illustrations evocative of it? Since any arbitrary date, or within any arbitrary time window.

You live on planet Earth. That's a child porn planet. Why do you live on a child porn planet? Why do you live in a child porn star system? Why don't you live on a Trappist-1 planet, where there is no CSAM traffic?

@fiend_unpleasant You are my epistemologic inferior. You cannot see the world in color, but as entirely dark or entirely light. One drop of ink taints your entire vat of milk. You cannot speak in terms of fractions or percentages, or parts per million, but only as IS and IS NOT. As such, you are not qualified to speak with the mature minds. I shall therefore speak to you as such.

Shut the fuck up until you mature more. Every conversation has a person on the other end. Don't be an asshole.

@log You are not a person... you are a log. One that has decided to "reply guy" with a pedo-apologist take on a website that creates tools with features specifically designed to "digitally rape" people that also had no safe guards to keep people from using it against children. This is something I absolutely see as black and white. I will not apologize for my stance nor my convictions.

If you were offended... so what. Stop having dogshit takes.

chris actual May 26

@jeffowski I really want to see if these thin-skinned ninnies have the balls to go full Galt's Gulch on the world. (They absolutely won't)

Jonathan May 26

@jeffowski

Yeah, they're not paying their taxes anyway. So who cares haha

Anyway, this is a myth. They never leave.

Pēteris Krišjānis May 27

@jmcrookston @jeffowski it is PR machine that did work for clueless voters for longer than it should.

@peteriskrisjanis @jeffowski

Jonathan May 27

https://mastodon.social/@jmcrookston/113717383402623909

DJ Toebeans May 26

@jeffowski Go on, git! Shoo!

thriftwicker May 26

@jeffowski Fuck. Yes.

Bridge&Tunnel Jeff May 27

@jeffowski They threatened to leave NYC if Mamdani was elected. That was extra motivation for me to vote for Zohran.

Alas, they're still here. It's almost as if rich people threaten and lie all the time.

My God. It's full of sitars.May 27

@jf_718 @jeffowski
What will it take to get them to leave?

contrasocial May 27

@jeffowski

Tapeworm: "You better not take that medicine or I'm gonna leave!"

Alan Campbell May 27

@jeffowski aye, don't threaten us with a good time.

hrast May 27

@jeffowski "competitive businesses" STFU

Generale Specifico May 27

@jeffowski I am constantly astonished by the extent to which capitalist propaganda—which knows no political faction—has constructed a national identity based on individualism rather than on community. Such hostility toward the State turns our shared existence into a jungle. Aggressive capitalism is ruining many nations and driving a wedge between peoples and individuals.

Generale Specifico May 27

@jeffowski When your economic power influences the lives of many people, you bear a social responsibility that cannot be discharged merely through charitable giving; furthermore, contributing to the surrounding environment through taxes is the bare minimum.

Kenneth John Bardsley May 27

@jeffowski
Amen.

Kruku May 27

@jeffowski
Billionaires' properties & mines & factories & delivery warehouses aren't going to grow legs & leave with them

...and they can all still pay tax.

Kinene⭐🐻May 27

@jeffowski "Please enter your fancy bunker."

Then we pour the cement. 😁