I started elementary (the open source project) as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high
We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?
@danirabbit To the mines.
That's the plan, isn't it? Work the mines or get pregnant and stay home.

@Mimesatwork @danirabbit

Also don't learn about racism, sexism, global warming or activism.

I think a big reason for the push to erase kids is Gretta Thunbergs activism because it threatened the oil industry

"The most common theme in the banned non-fiction books was activism and social movements."
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/may/07/banned-non-fiction-books-doubles

Report shows banned non-fiction books doubled over last school year in US

New PEN America report analysed 3,743 unique titles removed from libraries and classrooms and found books about activism and social movements were targeted

The Guardian
@alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit She did call out oil company execs by name.

@drwho @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

I mean peter theil was trying to argue Thunberg is the anti-christ.

So it's pretty clear she's deeply annoyed the rich.

@alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit Very much so. Before the last assassination market (in Germany) got taken down earlier this year, she had a decent price on her head (about 11.8 BTC).

@drwho @alienghic @danirabbit What a colossal waste of time and energy to be this pressed of people, one person in particular, wanting a better world for everyone.

Imagine all the things that energy and money could do for the world

@Mimesatwork @alienghic @danirabbit The number of people who truly, deeply do not want a better world is distressing. And they're all-in on making sure that doesn't happen.

@drwho @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

There's a bunch of men who really love the idea of domination others and they're killing us all.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/apr/22/masculinity-gender-climate-crisis

‘Petro-masculinity’ is destroying the planet. Can eco-masculinity help save it?

It’s crucial to understanding how gender is affecting our ability to rally behind a shared ecological vision

The Guardian
@alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit Yes. Killing all of us is acceptable to them.

@alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit That's why I occasionally say "passive aggressive depopulation strategy." Because that's what this is.

Until it's no longer passive, anyway.

@drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

I know what you're trying to say but the issue with phrasing it like this in spaces filled with non-open-minded average people is that it sounds too much like a conspiracy theory.

At the same time I know a bunch of young people who say they're not gonna have kids because they don't want to bring another person into an unjust world. And a bunch of older people then complain about immigration being used to replace us.

@martin_t

I'm quite depressed and expect that unless the petrostates can be kicked out of power the future for most of us will look like life somewhere between gaza and ukraine.

Just the destruction will be more often due to angry weather and only occasionally be due to war.

@martin_t @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit I know. I gave up talking about it a long time ago for that very reason.

@drwho @martin_t

Yes some things sound like conspiracies.

But sometimes we've got the court cases showing there were intentional conspiracies.

Straight up funding for a climate denial group was found as an outstanding debt for a bankrupt coal company.

https://thenarwhal.ca/canadian-climate-denial-group-friends-science-named-creditor-coal-giant-s-bankruptcy-files/

The USA oil companies figured out global warming would happen and threaten catastrophic destruction between 1950 and 1970s.

Instead of doing anything to move off of oil the funded disinformation groups to block the transition off of oil

https://exxonknew.org/

Canadian Climate Denial Group, Friends of Science, Named as Creditor in Coal Giant's Bankruptcy Files | The Narwhal

By Charles Mandel for the National Observer.

The Narwhal
@alienghic @martin_t I know. I nearly took gigs working for two of them about fifteen years back.

@drwho @martin_t

I ended up arguing with Friends of Science on twitter, and their arguments were so bad.

I remember one of their works included "we cant trust the IPCC report because it was written by people who don't wear suits".

@alienghic @martin_t Ye gods, talk about a crit fail.

They weren't really trying there, were they?

@drwho @martin_t

That argument was so bad I was wondering if they were scamming the oil companies.

@alienghic @drwho

Yup, many are real. What I was trying to say is that to the average person, it doesn't matter what is true, what matters is whether it sounds true.

@drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

Anyway, their goal is not depopulation, that's just a side effect. Their goal is to have fun, which to them is competing with other rich and anti-social people who has a bigger number in his bank account.

The real issue is constantly letting anti-socials into positions of power instead of democratizing everything - not just governments but companies too - and with direct democracy, not this "vote for parties to control your life" appeasement.

@martin_t

Several of the people in the Trump administration definitely want black, brown, and trans people dead.

@alienghic No doubt but they're outliers. Issues with this phrasing:

1) you're using an extreme example to characterize a group, it distorts the discussion

2) people will believe you if they already want to but the average person will see a conspiracy theorist and ignore you.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and repeating that evidence for every new person who hears about it.

Actually killing people is outside the majority's Overton window (for now) so they won't (for now)

@martin_t

There will likely be millions dead due to the USAID cuts.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths

Trump and his faction support Israel's ethnic cleansing in Gaza

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2025/1/28/trumps-genocidal-plan-to-clean-out-gaza-was-there-all-along

Anti-vaxers are gutting american public health, undermining or even cancelling vaccines to fit with wellness influencer fantasies will also have a significant body count.

https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/rfk-jr-moves-on-vaccines-could-have-broad-ramifications-for-public-health-says-expert/

Anti-vax ideology led to measles vaccine refusal and several hundred documented deaths in the USA.

Gutting FEMA will lead to more deaths from disasters.

https://apnews.com/article/fema-letter-kristi-noem-disasters-836712f383a8b7d393c5ebf0f80143cf

Dozens have died in the ICE internment camps

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/04/16/ice-deaths-under-trump-administration/89645594007/

ICE stopped paying for prisoner healthcare months ago.

https://www.cbsnews.com/atlanta/news/ice-stopped-paying-for-detainee-medical-care-as-population-surged/

There have been significant outbreaks of COVID, Measles, and Tuberculosis over the past few years in ICE interment camps.

Oh right, and ICE straight up shot people on camera.

@alienghic I wanted to say "killing people directly" but was out of characters. Gotta find a better instance.

To many people (sounds arrogant but the average person isn't very smart) there's a huge diff between lining people up next to a wall and shooting them vs putting them into a camp and killing them via malnutrition and disease.

> ICE straight up shot people on camera

Yup, and I hope the people responsible will be shot in return, though I have little hope of it happening intralegally.

@martin_t

Ah ok. yeah. the character limits.

A core mastodon inequality.