@drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

Anyway, their goal is not depopulation, that's just a side effect. Their goal is to have fun, which to them is competing with other rich and anti-social people who has a bigger number in his bank account.

The real issue is constantly letting anti-socials into positions of power instead of democratizing everything - not just governments but companies too - and with direct democracy, not this "vote for parties to control your life" appeasement.

@martin_t

Several of the people in the Trump administration definitely want black, brown, and trans people dead.

@alienghic No doubt but they're outliers. Issues with this phrasing:

1) you're using an extreme example to characterize a group, it distorts the discussion

2) people will believe you if they already want to but the average person will see a conspiracy theorist and ignore you.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and repeating that evidence for every new person who hears about it.

Actually killing people is outside the majority's Overton window (for now) so they won't (for now)

@martin_t

There will likely be millions dead due to the USAID cuts.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths

Trump and his faction support Israel's ethnic cleansing in Gaza

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2025/1/28/trumps-genocidal-plan-to-clean-out-gaza-was-there-all-along

Anti-vaxers are gutting american public health, undermining or even cancelling vaccines to fit with wellness influencer fantasies will also have a significant body count.

https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/rfk-jr-moves-on-vaccines-could-have-broad-ramifications-for-public-health-says-expert/

Anti-vax ideology led to measles vaccine refusal and several hundred documented deaths in the USA.

Gutting FEMA will lead to more deaths from disasters.

https://apnews.com/article/fema-letter-kristi-noem-disasters-836712f383a8b7d393c5ebf0f80143cf

Dozens have died in the ICE internment camps

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/04/16/ice-deaths-under-trump-administration/89645594007/

ICE stopped paying for prisoner healthcare months ago.

https://www.cbsnews.com/atlanta/news/ice-stopped-paying-for-detainee-medical-care-as-population-surged/

There have been significant outbreaks of COVID, Measles, and Tuberculosis over the past few years in ICE interment camps.

Oh right, and ICE straight up shot people on camera.

@alienghic I wanted to say "killing people directly" but was out of characters. Gotta find a better instance.

To many people (sounds arrogant but the average person isn't very smart) there's a huge diff between lining people up next to a wall and shooting them vs putting them into a camp and killing them via malnutrition and disease.

> ICE straight up shot people on camera

Yup, and I hope the people responsible will be shot in return, though I have little hope of it happening intralegally.

@martin_t

Ah ok. yeah. the character limits.

A core mastodon inequality.