Cleverson
Alice Averlong🏳️⚧️Important rules for the "age verification" era of the internet that we're living in:
1. Do not do age verification.
2. If you have to do age verification, cheat. Do not under any circumstances give them your real ID.
Reginald
Jargoggles@raganwald @foone
I would be more comfortable giving my ID to literally every single nightclub bouncer than a single age verification company.
I would be more comfortable giving my ID to literally every single nightclub bouncer than a single age verification company.
Back in my day, bouncers glanced at your ID. Nowadays—at least in Toronto—they like to scan every ID with a phone app. And because they're not just verifying ages but tracking you, they want to scan you even if you are obviously "of age."
It's *exactly* like the Internet age verification crap.
Bebadefabo@raganwald @jargoggles @foone as someone who has owned several small restaurants and bars, I can tell you that those "security apps" do not cost the establishment any money. Because the company is making it's money selling your data. Many of them are linking your photo ID to your cell phone signal that the app is also sniffing. They tell you this feature is so the bar also knows when you leave. But what it's doing is connecting your digital record to your state licensing record
Fuzz-RaEverything is corporate stalking now.
Governments know they should put a stop to it but they just can't let go of the data.
Manic Emo Dream Ghoul@bebadefabo Thank you for telling us this.
uname -a@raganwald @foone do not go to nightclubs
Sol Kawage@foone need to create my McLovin id
Stanley Nerdlinger II
Ticktok
Nine Stones Close@foone yep. And yep
Niaz Worldz@foone I don't see to ever do age verification for anything tbh...
Gov services already know my age and for everyone else, it's not their business!
Gov services already know my age and for everyone else, it's not their business!
Yza@foone i see people posting around that article about how kids are cheating age verification checks but drawing moustaches on themselves like it's a fatal flaw in the system, and it concerns me, because that's not a win. protecting children is just the excuse. what those kids are doing is putting their face on some database that's going to be used for surveillance, tracking, targetted advertizing, etc and will inevitably leak at some point
Oyu F'ka@Oyu_Fka @foone of course it's not the kids they're after, but they're getting them anyway. that's not a bad thing as far as these comapnies are concerned. it doesn't hurt them, so kids aren't beating the system, they're getting caught up in it with everyone else. they companiees don't likely care much if their systems don't age gate correctly, because they don't care about protecting kids, but getting peoples' data. that's my point
Dudley of Yesterzine 
@foone @lunarloony my high point was “fake driving licence in the name of my local mp” as a cheat.
@foone
There is software to alter a picture of your face. Like move your eyes, nose, mouth, ears around on your face and change the shapes. That will thwart facial recognition
There is software to alter a picture of your face. Like move your eyes, nose, mouth, ears around on your face and change the shapes. That will thwart facial recognition
Ganon-dalf@foone
"According to our data, sir, 86.6% of the nation was born on January 1st, sometime in the 80's."
"According to our data, sir, 86.6% of the nation was born on January 1st, sometime in the 80's."
jasonkarns@foone my birthday on every system I can is Jan 1 1970
Argonel
Guy@foone If you're in the EU, or particularly a German speaking country, you could order your own 'Lichtbildausweis' for EUR 15 (with self-chosen information to be put onto it).
https://shop.digitalcourage.de/themen/ak-vorrat/lichtbildausweis-mit-selbst-waehlbaren-daten.html
Credits to @digitalcourage for providing the service!
Having said that: This service **should not be needed!**
Phil M0OFX@foone Draw on a fake moustache with an eyebrow pencil, got it.
Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇬🇱@philpem I honestly wouldn't do that, because they'd still have a photo of your face. Use a generic face, or a video game face, or something like that.
Nuclear OatmealI just turned 56 at the beginning of the year.
Eric deRuiter@foone It sucks when it is not age verification but identity verification required for getting health care. https://mastodon.social/@ridogi/116363622973718467
@ridogi yeah that's part of why I'm saying this: age verification is bad, but it's going to turn into identity verification real quick, and that's way worse, for everyone's safety and privacy
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John
Bean Club 
Socko 
Phil 📸I used to work for one of the largest healthcare organizations in the US. Their medical record system had two fields for birthdate: "insurance birthdate" and "clinical birthdate."
The "insurance birthdate" was whatever you told your employer (and they passed along to the insurer).
The "clinical birthdate" was your actual birthdate.
JD
TheNovemberFella ✊🏳️🌈 🇺🇦☸️🛰️🚀
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Rick d Card@foone My Facebook persona is 125 years old!😀
CassandraVert3. Keep track of who you give which fake info to. You may see it come back to you in future solicitations.
SomeVeganCheeseIsOk@foone Exceptions for government, medical, and finance shit apply, because they actually have regulatory requirements to secure their systems.
Machine Lord Zero
Keeya
Vincent Hayes🌹
@foone I would even go so far as to say avoid people that do, it means they're willing to forgo their safety for convenience. Means they'd probably do the same with others.
րպհտին ջվգեան ⊽🜁@[email protected] i was telling my friends that having to provide your id for a sim card / internet access, is unacceptable.
nobody usderstood me. ;/
The Tattooed Nonna 🧙♀️@foone I bought something on a website the other day and they said they needed to check who I was and they just did it via my visa card which was a bit creepy but what evs