i really hope 40 years from now people will look at banning kids from social media the way people now look at the satanic panic of the 80s

some of y'all are being real fucking weird about this metaphor and i can't say i super appreciate it

apparently i need to spell this out: both these things are about control, and "won't someone please think about the children" is primarily just pretext, just like it always is

if they gave a shit about the children they'd legislate the companies profiting from it all, not unilaterally yeeting kids out of society's public platforms

anyway im gonna mute this thread now before any more unhinged people accuse me of being a proponent of facebook profiting off child abuse 🙄 enjoy yelling into the void

@eniko

They should consider how Facebook/Meta is quite literally the one driving the whole "age verification" mania through a chain of and shady non-profits and even shadier go-betweens.

They absolutely think it will be good for them.

@CliftonR sure. in the choice of being legislated against and having to do something or shunting the responsibility onto governments and individuals, of course they want the latter

plus all of that sweet sweet real ID data

@eniko @CliftonR yea. data protection by giving bogus information doesn't work when the real one is given to them with your id

@eniko

Exactly. That's worth big $$ to advertisers.

*But* even more valuable, it's helping them force out small media - forums, personal blogs, independent social networks *cough*, everything they've been trying to wipe out for years. We're already seeing independent forums and sites close down in the UK because the cost and the risks are too high.

They want it to appear to the public that the only alternatives are Meta (Facebook) or Meta (Instagram.)

@eniko @CliftonR and presumably also it makes it even harder for a smaller company to try to compete with them
@eniko Won't somebody think of the poor companies whose profit margins might reduce by 0.0002319% if they have to stop being comic book evil?!
@eniko if they cared about kids, they'd prosecute everyone in the Epstein files. If they cared about kids, they'd institute universal school lunch. If they cared about kids, they'd have made real efforts in gun control. If they cared about kids, they'd institute universal child care, health care, public spaces, libraries...

@eniko They want control, they want surveillance and they want to limit people’s internet access. They want to lock LGBT+ youth away from their support groups, and remove their freedom to form their own opinions. They hate that todays youth is aware that they aren’t their parents property. And they want your face and documents to sell and feed to their AIs and databases.

As much as I’d love to see big tech social media being killed and LGBT+ youth to learn about Fedi, an actually good social media place, banning social media indiscriminately from them (or requiring ID checks to determine which content can be accessed) just takes their support channels away.

@eniko nobody has this much fanfare and pagentry around actually doing something good. Just another red flag.

Yet it seems the majority of people blindly trust rich people and elected officials to just be doing the right thing.

@eniko

Worse (& this may be implicit in your point, but I think it bears saying explicitly): it's not just about control of kids. It's about control & •surveillance• of •everybody•.