Eniko Fox1d ago
i really hope 40 years from now people will look at banning kids from social media the way people now look at the satanic panic of the 80s
Show threadLars Marowsky-Brée 😷1d ago

@eniko except that social media really IS designed by researchers to be maximally addictive, so I'm not sure that compares fully.

Of course, that part should be banned for everyone.

Show threadJoeHenzi1d ago

@larsmb @eniko

Satanic Panic doesn't have a list of victims, but I got this in 2 seconds of searching.

Teens Whose Deaths Were Linked to Social Media:

Molly Russell (14): A British teen whose 2017 death was linked to social media, prompting inquests into Instagram and Pinterest content.
Jordan DeMay (17): Died by suicide in 2026 after a "financial sextortion" scam involving a fake Instagram account, leading to a lawsuit against Meta.
Coco Arnold (17): Died in 2022 from fentanyl-laced pills allegedly sold by an older man contacted through Instagram.
Bradyn Bohn (17): Died by suicide following a financial sextortion scheme, leading to a lawsuit against Meta.
Cameron Murphy (15): Died by suicide; his mother cited his addiction to Instagram and TikTok.
Jools Roome (14): Died in 2025 after a suspected TikTok challenge.
JackLynn Blackwell (9): Died in 2026 attempting a viral social media dare.
Renna O'Rourke: Died attempting a "dusting" challenge in 2025.
Ciara Pugsley: Committed suicide after being bullied on Ask.fm.
Jessica Laney: Hanged herself after being bullied on Ask.fm.
Daniel Perry: Jumped to his death after being blackmailed on Skype.
Audrey Sites: Died from suicide following targeting on Roblox.

Show threadEniko Fox1d ago

@JoeHenzi @larsmb "Satanic Panic doesn't have a list of victims"

uhh yeah it does actually https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Nhvr1X8Kc

The Rise and Fall of Misery Memoirs

YouTube
Show threadJoeHenzi1d ago
@eniko @larsmb you should just state your point - if it is that the panic had an effect on people, that's an aside, Facebook has lead to people dying. D&D did not, the Satanic Panic was invented - Facebook has actually led to kids dying. Not sure why you're trying to cover this up so much?
Show threadEniko Fox1d ago

@JoeHenzi @larsmb okay so do something *about facebook*, *legislate against facebook*

don't cut kids off from the rest of society. what, you think no kids ever died from being under the total control of their abusive parents with no way to connect with anyone else?

also you're a real piece of work insinuating over and over that i'm somehow a proponent of facebook in any way, let alone them making a profit off dead kids

Show threadceets1d ago

@JoeHenzi @larsmb @eniko

What, you mean we actually need to SOLVE PROBLEMS STRUCTURALLY and not just silo off our kids from the wider world?!!?!?!?

do you want kids to die or something smh

Show threadJoeHenzi1d ago
@ct @larsmb @eniko silo kids? they should be in school... this is wild, social media is not society, it's an aberration and was what killed kids
Show threadOvidi Nawer1d ago
@JoeHenzi someone is not queer and has a position of privilege so hard that can't imagine that a hella lot of kids have survived throught the fact that the internet exists.
Dude chill for a moment and try to think clearly, this read was insanity at it's peak. We're talking complex social relationships here, not the fact that we are idiots that still use fuel to make electricity instead of solar panels. This isn't a maths problem, sadly, and if it was treated as such, I would be hella worried.
Show threadJoeHenzi1d ago
@Nawer_Rapter this is really unfair - i'm not against the internet, I'm speaking against kids being on Facebook - it's weird the "privilege" means being *for* kids, you're pretending Facebook is good for queer kids and bad for those that aren't. I'm really confused because it's like pure racism/hatred and transphobia there. That's what gets clicks, they produced evidence that's what they are feeding ALL of us. Your stance here is that we should support systems that amplify hate, for profit, because if not I'm using my privilege. There's a direct line between Trump, social media and the current loss of our rights. So wild to me to use sexual orientation to say I'm not allowed to point out reality.
Show threadOvidi Nawer1d ago
@JoeHenzi and did you see, by any chance, someone trying to defend facebook in here?
I honestly thought at this point you were just saying fedi is shit cuz it's a social media, by self-definition nontheless
Don't you see you don't have anyone even remotely saying what you're trying to say they said in the entire conversation?
My dude you're fighting an invisible ghost made by your own here, you can say "sorry, we're on the same boat, I just went of the rails for a moment",it happens to all of us
Show threadJoeHenzi
@Nawer_Rapter I mean, I get your point about connections though social media but I reject it because no it's not good. Even here, it's not. Facebook is just weaponized against us. I don't want to be here now really, I think it's hurting both of us to be honest.
Apr 12 at 11:32pmWeb
Show threadOvidi Nawer1d ago

@JoeHenzi I'm just honestly trying to convey the complete information of what is happening here,would be muting shit out of this if didn't want to so don't worry if I get tired I'll just go and shut up

I just see a well-intended person getting the wrong idea for reasons related to a lack of, well, seeing around what little some people have out there, as in, for reals, some of us had nothing besides the internet for so SO long
Age bans are applied for THE INTERNET, not Facebook and TikTok, sadly

Show threadJoeHenzi1d ago

@Nawer_Rapter noooo

i'm not for age bans though, i never once said that... i HATE anyone asking for ID

but I also think like social media is a fucking cancer and there are dead kids - so maybe, like, get rid of all of it... even this?