Sharp Cheddar GoblinIn my quest for a #Discord alternative for my gaming group, I'm going to toss #Matrix into the bin of "nope". It ticks most of the boxes, but holy fucking hell the constant nagging to revalidate every fucking login is not going to fly. None of my friends are going to tolerate that shit just to talk about #TTRPG scheduling, campaign planning, and general life events. Intensely user-hostile.
Benjamin Kwiecień 🇵🇸@SharpCheddarGoblin What's so hard about validating your login for e2ee? You could just not do it, that's fine too... you can create group chats without e2ee 😀
sef@ben @SharpCheddarGoblin I suppose the good goblin refers to not Matrix the protocol but the Element app suite for it, which is, UX-wise, indeed pretty insistent about verification. Which even if manageable personally might throw friend group members off. Though e2ee inevitably will break usage conventions for people, it’s still valid critique.
@SharpCheddarGoblin @sef you're right... I realize that other software I use like Conversations/XMPP does automatic e2ee but automatically accepts additional devices and doesn't ask me to verify them
haise@SharpCheddarGoblin @sef @ben report all the UX issues :) they are working on improving that quite abit
@haise @SharpCheddarGoblin @sef I don't know if they can fix this about Element but it's impossible on the desktop version to scroll back through chat history. It jumps around like crazy, goes to the wrong position when jumping to messages, and I can't find any way to actually jump back to mentions/notifications in a chat. I get mention notifications in busy chats and can't even find the message. It's such basic functionality, and it's always been broken it feels like. I'm happy to verify logins and all that