Look at #xmpp :)

@lorenzo @davidmaddock How exactly is that comment helpful? Especially since XMPP is a protocol, not an application.

@phalanx @lorenzo it made me go and read what xmpp is. And I maybe kinda learned something. That's about it. hence the oof. Translate "oof" in this case to: Signal appears to sit in the middle ground, along with things like Proton, where they're better/more secure/private/user controlled than WhatsApp/meta/google/MS etc, but that there is a whole world out there of obscure options and that I could choose to go down a rabbit hole on and be completely self hosted/data sovereign etc etc, but also communicating with 3 people via the equivalent of morse code. 🤷‍♂️ Brave new world for me. (Further comment from someone else re a couple of steps to take on linux to improve things is more actionable.)

@davidmaddock @lorenzo That may be true, but I find it quite annoying if someone asks a very specific question about a product and then someone recommends a totally different product instead of answering that question. In this case without even addressing the issue in question.