working from a train is always so fun
@rixx true story: we regard German train rides and using wifi there as a good test bed for our networking code's ability to work in slow and malfunctioning networks. For example two travelling contributors messaged and established p2p realtime networking between two high speed running ICE trains, to test robustness and reconnection fitness :)
@delta @rixx maybe ICEs arenโ€™t that great for this given that their wifi works much more reliably than regional trains on average? ๐Ÿ˜…
@follpvosten @delta @rixx Which WIFI? ๐Ÿ˜…
@dwardoric @delta @rixx some of them do have it. :)
@dwardoric @delta @rixx WIFIonICE is just, in my experience, a lot more reliable than WiFi@DB and friends.
@follpvosten @delta @rixx Yes, also in my experience. Usually on phone hotspot in these places.
@follpvosten @dwardoric @delta @rixx ICE has a higher capacity, but it depends on the number of passengers. It will also crash on busier stations as everyone and their granddad will join the network automatically.
@delta @daniel_bohrer @rixx This is hilarious ๐Ÿ˜‚

@maxheadroom @delta @daniel_bohrer @rixx

I mean for me it is somewhat crazy that you move with 300 km / h and can still send packages around the globe. Just to soften the #DB bashing that could ensue from this thread.

How hard is this from an engineering point of view? I guess wifi on airplanes works too, but there I guess satellite connection is more reliable. Okay I really know very little about this. Another rabbit hole opening up.

@TheSecondVariation @maxheadroom @delta @rixx DB doesn't own the mobile phone networks, so I guess there's no need to bash them in this thread. :) This is a problem with different infrastructure companies.
@daniel_bohrer @TheSecondVariation @maxheadroom @delta as in this case, the problem was with the local infra and not with the mobile network, I feel like some amount of criticism would be warranted
@rixx @daniel_bohrer @TheSecondVariation @maxheadroom @delta Their onboard wifi infra is ๐Ÿ’ฉ
Bad mobile network coverage is a compounding problem. Itโ€™s not like both things arenโ€˜t solvable - outside of Germany these are mostly solved problems. There are even rumors that you can operate a public wifi without a captive portal breaking stuff. Whoa! ๐Ÿคฏ

@nblr @rixx @daniel_bohrer @maxheadroom @delta I can only speak for France, Spain and Morocco. I went through these countries recently with the train and the network was on par (France) or pretty much non existent as in Spain and Morocco.

Obviously its more or less my anecdotal experience level, but maybe you can back up your claims with facts. This is not meant offensively, just curious.

@TheSecondVariation @maxheadroom @delta @daniel_bohrer @rixx 300 km/h is just too fast for 4G let alone 5G. That's why Deutsche Bahn cooperated with carriers to install special infrastructure (mostly repeaters and specialized antennas): https://newsroom.vodafone.de/vodafone-sorgt-fuer-besseren-mobilfunkempfang-in-den-ice-zuegen
Vodafone sorgt fรผr besseren Mobilfunkempfang in den ICE-Zรผgen

@benedikt_lauenburg @TheSecondVariation @maxheadroom @delta @daniel_bohrer The amount of time spent at 300km/h on a German ICE inside Germany is *very* limited.

Notably the screenshot above was taken at somewhere between 0 and 10 km/h in Berlin. So, uh. I do not feel like I'm unfairly bashing anybody.

@delta @rixx This is funnier than it should be.

@delta
@rixx

For a real challenge perform the tests in IC/ICE trains, but only using the cell network instead of Wifi. ๐Ÿค“

@vampirdaddy @delta @rixx It's specifically designed that way that the "Ruhebereich" has bad coverage so there won't be any phone calls.

In the days of wifi calls this is a dated concept.