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Jenniferplusplus

One of the things I like about the fediverse, as a concrete network of real people, is that you all tend to at least recognize the actions of power. Not perfectly, and not universally. But on average, you can see the outcome of some exercise of power, and then point back to the power that produced it.

This means that things don't seem like inevitable, uncontrollable, acts of nature to you. You can imagine a different outcome than the one we got, even if you don't know how to bring it about.

And oh my god is that refreshing. It's something that I have found in zero other places.

@jenniferplusplus 😘😘

@jenniferplusplus as a Human ethicist it was perfect util the last sentence. I know it ia just every day speech but there is no god determining our future. We determine the future 😏

Khleedril 2d ago

@dagb @jenniferplusplus As a human being I was enjoying this glorious thread until that last post. Curious what qualifies you as a human ethicist?

@khleedril qualify sounds like you can pass a test in a subject. Human ethics are critical thinking about ethical matters, often contradicting. The point is that you have to think, decide, evaluate, and learn, like a continuous process. To me, it is what makes me me, and no external, out of context, rules other than human rights.

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ahistorical immaterialist 1d ago

@dagb @jenniferplusplus kind of a weird thing to say when someone uses lower-case "god" as part of a common idiom, but you do you, I suppose

@jimbob @dagb @jenniferplusplus They're only letting the use of lowercase "god" detract from "perfect". Still quite strict of course, but perfection is perfection and nothing less nor more.

@jimbob I am not a native english native, so maybe I "overreacted", but it is still with some religious connotations? @jenniferplusplus

ShadSterling 1d ago

@dagb @jimbob @jenniferplusplus idiomatic use does not necessarily have religious connotations

@jenniferplusplus yeah. That can lead to a bit more acute strife, but that is largely because the people responsible for moderation/etc are real people that can be interacted with, instead of a massive faceless corporation that makes opaque decisions and is essentially untouchable

GeePawHill 1d ago

@jenniferplusplus It's not a perfect place, and I am well aware of a variety of ways it is not. But it is a better place than any I've seen since Usenet.

It's . . . *good*. Oddly good. Surprisingly good.

Jenniferplusplus 1d ago

@GeePawHill well, that's very relative. But it's a situation I can work with

Irenes (many)1d ago

@GeePawHill @jenniferplusplus high praise. yeah, you may be right.

Nicolai von Neudeck 1d ago

@jenniferplusplus Nobody here who has *no* understanding of politics. Different ones, but nobody without it

Nicolai von Neudeck 1d ago

@jenniferplusplus I’m very frustrated though with the tendency of far too many here to ask „cui bono?“ but not any further than that

Jenniferplusplus 1d ago

@nicolai true. People here do not, in general have a theory of power. I can't expect them to know how to oppose power, to gain it, to weild it, or even to distribute it. But they can usually at least identify that it exists. The bar is on the floor. But even so, this is still the only environment I spend time in that can clear it

@jenniferplusplus I'm not sure if I get what you're saying.

Flipper 🐬🏳️‍🌈1d ago

@jenniferplusplus we made this world, we can make it however we want. Nothing is inevitable.

Chinga la migra! 🍉🌈1d ago

@flipper @jenniferplusplus I absolutely thought this was going to be a variation on my mom yelling at me as a kid. "we made this world and we can take it out" or "Don't make me turn this world around..."

Maybe I should get back in therapy.

Flipper 🐬🏳️‍🌈1d ago

@fiend_unpleasant
It costs extra if you want me to yell at you :)

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@jenniferplusplus
I found this in anarchist circles and unions too

Frutiger 1d ago

@jenniferplusplus true! Never thought about that but now that you mention it, i can compare when I was active on other social media! Like, the news were sort of "this big problem is happening and is terrible!" and here is more like "this big problem is happening because of this and these people and this philosophy and this structure" and I dunno, maybe its just that the people that think similar just reunited here on mastodon (eco chambeeer 😂)

@jenniferplusplus I think that another way of looking at this might be to say that we have an unusually high number of people here who understand power and recognise its application, but who just aren't that interested in wielding it themselves. And I think that's probably true. Calling out abuses of power kind of falls naturally out of our attitude to power in the first place?

Nu Modular 2h ago

@jenniferplusplus Ponder this for a moment...

What if #BehavioralScience were #CoreEducation?..