RE: https://infosec.exchange/@molytov/116376968214888959

Gee, maybe Signal shouldn’t keep harassing people to turn on notifications and take no for an answer?

Thoughts, @Mer__edith?

@Mer__edith Oh, and would you look at that, right on cue…

The opposite of “yes” is “no”, not “not now” or “ask me later”.

#hostileDesign #consent #Signal #design #theOppositeOfYesIsNo

@Mer__edith No, thank you. Please don’t.

Behind every app that won’t take “no” for an answer, there’s a developer that doesn’t understand the concept of consent.

This is a legacy anti-feature, implemented at a time before Signal’s new leadership. I expect better, going forward.

#signal #hostileDesign #theOppositeOfYesIsNo #consent

@aral @Mer__edith
To put it more bluntly: Behind every app that won't take "no" for an answer, there's a rapist mentality.
@mikro2nd @aral @Mer__edith Thats putting it more honestly. Wordpress has now added AI shit unasked-for and given google access to everything their bloggers write, no permission granted.
If anyone knows how we can block these thefts, I'd love to hear it.

@aral It is not just developers. Even #Signal needs a network effect to achieve its mission and missed notifications turn people away from an app. @Mer__edith has been clear about the need for this and the way it affects design decisions.

The question they face is whether this is the right compromise between making the app attractive to mass users and respecting those users' autonomy. A three way option might solve that.

@tomstoneham @Mer__edith There’s a reason the base of the ethical design pyramid is Human Rights.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250328100446/https://ind.ie/ethical-design/

(Make it 10 different options if you like, as long as one of them is “no.”)

Ind.ie — Ethical Design Manifesto

@aral @Mer__edith 100% agree on this.

Please dont copy bad features others built in their app.

@aral @Mer__edith

>Turn me on?
<Not know!
>We'll remind you later.
<I'd be having a headache and I'm not in group-sex either!