jolla1d ago

Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. Today they published the full story! 🎉

MTV wrote about digital sovereignty and whether a Finnish mobile operating system could be the European alternative (article in Finnish 🇫🇮). There are only four mobile operating systems in the world: two American, one Chinese — and Sailfish OS. The only truly European one.

Read the full piece here:
https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/suomalaiskannykasta-turvallinen-vaihtoehto-jattifirmoista-irti-haluaville-entisten-nokia-insinoorien-jolla-tekee-paluuta/9321652

#Jolla #SailfishOS #DigitalSovereignty #PrivacyFirst #CommunityPowered #European

Suomalaiskännykästä turvallinen vaihtoehto jättifirmoista irti haluaville? Entisten Nokia-insinöörien Jolla tekee paluuta

Euroopassa on herätty pohtimaan digitaalista riippuvuutta Yhdysvalloista. Voisiko suomalainen mobiilikäyttöjärjestelmä olla eurooppalainen vaihtoehto amerikkalaisten vallalle?

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Show threadkhm1d ago
"four mobile operating systems in the world" not counting UBPorts, PostmarketOS, Mobian, Maemo Leste, and of course KaiOS, which has shipped more units than Sailfish despite the latter's five-year head start
Show threadHummel

@khm @jolla
1. KaiOS is made for Feature Phones. Jolla is focused in Smartphones.
2. KaiOS is almost dead

The Linux alternatives you mentioned are nothing you could as daily driver.

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Show threadkhm23h ago
1. KaiOS is not noticeably less 'smart' than Jolla. They've chosen to aim downmarket, but that is not a technical limitation.
2. Sailfish is also 'almost dead.' Jolla isn't even a company any more, just a brand name rescued from the flames of Rostelecom investment. It's a series of Kickstarter projects with mixed results.

Having used Sailfish and also literally all of the alternatives I mentioned, several of them (particularly UBPorts and PostmarketOS) are at least as good as Sailfish. An ancient Oneplus 6 running Phosh on PostmarketOS is a better successor to the Nokia N9 than anything Jollyboys has in the hopper.

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Show threadHummel21h ago

@khm @jolla
KaiOS runs on outdated software and almost every remaining useful app is a web app. There are barely any new phones.

"Jolla is almost dead" 10k+ pre-orders for the most recent phone after the C2 . And if "Kickstarter with mixed results" kills Jolla's credibility, what does that say about PostmarketOS, which has no company, no employees, no hardware program and no revenue?

Show threadkhm18h ago
Still not sure how "barely any new phones" differentiates Sailfish and KaiOS.

10k pre-orders is meaningless noise in the mobile market. It's a rounding error.

Having no company, no employees, no hardware program, and no revenue is a hell of a lot better than having a company, employees, hardware program, and revenue, and no resulting advantage, and a previous failed company.

I would love to live in a world where Sailfish is a major player. They have demonstrated for over a decade that they cannot achieve that goal.

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