jolla1d ago

Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. Today they published the full story! 🎉

MTV wrote about digital sovereignty and whether a Finnish mobile operating system could be the European alternative (article in Finnish 🇫🇮). There are only four mobile operating systems in the world: two American, one Chinese — and Sailfish OS. The only truly European one.

Read the full piece here:
https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/suomalaiskannykasta-turvallinen-vaihtoehto-jattifirmoista-irti-haluaville-entisten-nokia-insinoorien-jolla-tekee-paluuta/9321652

#Jolla #SailfishOS #DigitalSovereignty #PrivacyFirst #CommunityPowered #European

Suomalaiskännykästä turvallinen vaihtoehto jättifirmoista irti haluaville? Entisten Nokia-insinöörien Jolla tekee paluuta

Euroopassa on herätty pohtimaan digitaalista riippuvuutta Yhdysvalloista. Voisiko suomalainen mobiilikäyttöjärjestelmä olla eurooppalainen vaihtoehto amerikkalaisten vallalle?

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Show threadRomas Skersis1d ago
@jolla
If really - Jolla truly russian, not europe
Show threadKalle Kniivilä1d ago
@skersis @jolla How so?
Show threadTOϺΛZ
@kallekn @skersis @jolla Just Google for it. They have been partially owned by Russian company which was 45% state owned but I hear that after invasion on Ukraine they’ve managed to resolve this issue and got out of this awkward situation?
It would be best though if Jolla would clarify themself the current status and ownership.
Apr 9 at 9:01pmWeb
Show threadAntti14h ago
@t0maz @kallekn @skersis Jolla has publicly said that there are no connections to Ruzzia what-so-ever. Jolla started leaving Ruz in 2021 and 2023 they filed for bankruptcy as Ruz owner (at peak ~20% ownership) didn't want to sell. As the company was mostly in Finnish ownership at that point, Finnish court ordered to sell the immaterial rights to another company. Management of Jolla with Finnish investors bought the immaterial rights to new company and the Ruz saga ended finally.
Show threadTOϺΛZ13h ago
@Antti98 @kallekn @skersis It’s good to know, thanks! I just cannot find this public statement and hear some complaints that there is no transparency about current ownership status.
I guess that sharing publicly this info would help the company to quickly clarify in easy way this fact to potential customers.
Unless there is again something to be not proud of. I hope not because I’d really like to see more Linux phones on the market!
Show threadPerkele10h ago

@t0maz @Antti98 @kallekn @skersis https://jolla-devices.com/news/the-effects-of-the-war-in-ukraine-on-jolla-a-summary/

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/samulisimojoki_putinin-hy%C3%B6kk%C3%A4ys-ukrainaan-pakottaa-meist%C3%A4-activity-6904001201180934144-lb4d/

The effects of the war in Ukraine on Jolla, a summary

The events: Putin invades UkraineLet’s start with the breaking news: the Russian army started an offensive in Ukrainian territory, therefore not only in the disputed territories of Donbass and Cri

Jolla devices | Independent blog on Sailfish OS and other alternative OSes
Show threadTOϺΛZ8h ago
@ItsePerkele @Antti98 @kallekn @skersis Thanks Perkele, the linked doc is citing CEO letter:
“Jolla Oy has been actively driving down its Russian business already during 2021 and will not generate any turnover from Russia. The only connection, then, is ownership.”
Hence it’s still unclear to me what happened later and who currently owns Jolla.
Show threadAntti8h ago
@t0maz @ItsePerkele @kallekn @skersis 2023 the old company was filed to bankruptcy. After that the management created new company, which bought the immaterial rights. At least in the Finnish press it was stated that the new company was as a whole under Finnish ownership. If I remember right, in later date given statement they said company is under mostly Finnish ownership and as a whole under European ownership (hinting some European investor). I might miss remember, so make own research also
Show threadTOϺΛZ8h ago
@Antti98 @ItsePerkele @kallekn @skersis Yeah, it’s still may be seen as suspicious that Jolla is not transparent about the owners. After all even if the non-Finish owner(s) is from Europe then hmm… Belarus is also in Europe as an example :s
I guess Jolla have their own reasons of not sharing this info and I’m personally not that much interested in finding it out, just my opinion that it’s quite strange?
Show threadAntti7h ago

@t0maz @ItsePerkele @kallekn @skersis I think not that many companies, which aren't listed ones, don't specify publicly who are the actual owners. Usually I think this information is released by press etc. as they have to give that information.

I don't know what is the reasoning behind this, but I have noticed this pattern when looking about other companies also. Could it be that not all of investors want to presented publicly in the website etc? But definitely would be good to be transparent

Show threadAntti8h ago
@t0maz @kallekn @skersis IIRC, as they are Oy, that means the ownership information should be presented when asked. But that would require some journalist etc. to actually going to their head quarter and ask for that. Didn't have time now to search all the press releases, but I remember it has been talked about somewhere.