anyone who didn't vote is just as culpable in all of this as MAGA
i voted for bernie in the primaries and gave him money
then i voted for hillary in the general election, because i'm not a moron
anyone who feels a need to punish spineless centrist democrats as a more important goal than not becoming a fascist country is an entitled piece of shit
imagine the world where bernie became president in 2016
😩
but no
MAGA and centrist democrats ruined it all
and now this dystopian hell
@MFennVT @benroyce @MicheleV_AK I don't believe that. In my country (🇲🇽) I voted just once for the Conservative party, because it was more central and less corrupt than anything else. The left in 🇲🇽 is like MAGA in 🇺🇸 it only exists to diminish anything else, by lies, illegal means, or whatever.
Once in power, they only work to create a totalitarian state. You won't believe Mexico is like that, but the previous president was the same from Mexico's 60s, 70s, and 80s regime.
@epistomai @MFennVT @MicheleV_AK
i'm too ignorant of mexican politics to comment on mexican politics, but i would say that whatever is going on in mexico is different enough from what is going on in the usa that you can't say bernie wouldn't have won based on something in mexican politics
@epistomai @MFennVT @MicheleV_AK
oh i get it now
you're speaking of MAGA making a bernie win impossible, i see
sorry for the misunderstanding
the way i see it is if bernie got the dem nomination, he would not have had hillary's baggage and would have succeeded over trump. i could be wrong. and i acknowledge what you're saying about MAGA. it's a giant force of ignorance and bigotry
@epistomai @MFennVT @MicheleV_AK
the biggest support for fascist AfD is in east germany
it is wild
it seems a people once abused, almost yearn for the abuse again
i guess you could say the same for hungary. it went from the hungarian uprisings of 1956 against the soviets, to being fearmongered into support for russia
propaganda, fear, low education: a hell of a drug
@benroyce @epistomai @MFennVT @MicheleV_AK Not really a surprise. East Germany was in many ways a continuation of Nazism. Same war worship. Same political control of everything. Same master race ideology - look at their efforts to win (cheat) at the Olympics. Same mentality of we must be self-sufficient even if it means our lives kind of suck.
People who once felt powerful and no longer do want it back, even at the cost of comfort.
@benroyce @MFennVT @MicheleV_AK As far I see American history, it was like in Germany Hitler's party never won.
We still have Nazis to this day
@epistomai @MFennVT @MicheleV_AK
germany's nazis copied racist jim crow tactics from the deep south of the usa
@MFennVT @benroyce @MicheleV_AK Read about the 'Mexican miracle' in the 70s, and how one single party didn't allow to grow. Something similar to Soviet states, but in a cynical lie.
Many from that old regime want it that way, that's why I don't trust in my Mexico anymore. It's cultural, and you don't want that in your country. You want generations to continue, not stagnation
@epistomai @MFennVT @MicheleV_AK
right but that's a totally different dynamic than the usa
so i don't understand this {problem in mexican politics} therefore bernie can't win, or that bernie somehow represents something in mexican politics
@benroyce @MFennVT @MicheleV_AK Not as Mexican politics, but as groups from opposition
I think you put so much trust on 'what if'. That's what I am saying
@epistomai @MFennVT @MicheleV_AK
no i understand now, i misunderstood what you were saying, but you cleared it up in your other comment. i apologize
mexico and the usa have terrible problems, that is for certain
@epistomai @MFennVT @MicheleV_AK
canada weirdly benefits from a fascist usa
poilievre was on track to win until trump went all "51st state! whargabbl" in his 3 AM sitting on his gold toilet social media posts
@benroyce @MFennVT @MicheleV_AK I am still learning how things work in 🇨🇦 I got a degree but still learning stuff in here.
They had the elections because Justin Trudeau didn't want to fight Trump and he was separated or separating from his wife and family. Elections are only decided by Parliament I believe, not a specific date or period. Nevertheless, Poliviere lost because Trump caused the most negative impression in 🇨🇦 and Carney had to step in. I believe not even him wanted to run for PM befor