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John Ulrik@aral If you asked German men of that age, I’d be surprised if even one in tens of thousands knew this.
Reiner Jung 🇬🇱 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@ujay68 @aral the law was enacted in January, but the media only started to report it a couple of days ago. No one has read the new law. I doubt that in parliament many have read it. Some claim that it is in violation of EU law, but I am not really sure.
What we need is a man between 17 and 45 who wants to leave the country for more than 3 months, for example a student.
Infoseepage@Infoseepage @prefec2 @aral PS. AFAICT, the regulation says the travel requests have to be granted with no scrutiny applied. So it seems more like a mandatory register of people abroad than a restriction, but still …
@ujay68 @prefec2 @aral But that's not the way it is written, right? It's written as "To travel, you must get approval and do X." If it was written as "All men who are German nationals between such and such an age must get a physical and register their current address," that would seem to be less legally objectionable.
@Infoseepage @prefec2 @aral The federal administration and the secretary of defence have now made clear that no application/approval will be necessary in times of peace. https://social.bund.de/@Bundesregierung/116369486224365124
Bundesregierung (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image Das Verteidigungsministerium wird eine Ausnahme von der Genehmigungspflicht noch diese Woche zulassen. Das Wehrpflichtmodernisierungsgesetz sieht dies ausdrücklich vor. Aktuell gilt also für alle: Es braucht keine Genehmigung für Auslandsaufenthalte! Das könnte sich ändern, wenn sich die Sicherheitslage verschärfen und der Wehrdienst verpflichtend werden sollte. Für diesen Fall hat das Verteidigungsministerium mit dem Gesetz vorgesorgt.
Passenger@ujay68 @Infoseepage @prefec2 @aral
"In times of peace" is a worrying imprecise phrase in a world where declarations of war have gone out of style.
Was Germany at war in the 2000s, when they had troops in Afghanistan? Legally yes or legally no, depending on what is most useful to the government at the time. This creates ambiguity, and that is the death of good law.
@passenger That’s me abbreviating things here. You’re free to refer to the exact text of the accompanying directive once it’s out. (And I agree that laws should be clear, concise, and unambiguous, but you’ll probably never get that as long as lawyers are involved. 🙃)