Found the very first #3D Modeling program I ever used circa 1992, "3D-Edit."
It came with a bunch of shareware on a 105MB hard disk I got from my parents that year. The program itself was released in 1986.

https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/3d-edit

#ReadTheAltText

#ClassicMac #ClassicMacintosh #RetroComputing #3dGraphics #Modeler

@rl_dane

It says "copyright 1986" and "public domain". Ummm.

@amin

heh πŸ˜‚

Pre-information-age stuff ;)

@rl_dane

Those are mutually-exclusive states! πŸ˜†

@amin

Well, yes. But also, how would he know? Remember, all we had to go on was a dictionary, maybe an encyclopedia at the local library, the people around us, and whatever was already in our heads. ;)

To him, "Public Domain" probably just meant "freeware."

@rl_dane

But… like… just judging from the individual words, that doesn't make any sense. You can't hold the exclusive "right" to "copy" if it is the "domain" of the "public".

@amin

Brofam, people today don't even think about things that deeply. ;)

Accept your exceptionality. ;)

@rl_dane

I am quite exceptional.

I guess most people haven't read the clause of the US constitution that sets forth the basis of copyright. (If they did, maybe more people would consider the current state of it unconstitutional.)

@amin

Again, where's a 1986 dude living in rural Texas going to get a copy of the U.S. Constitution?

Maybe from his High School textbooks, if he kept them (which we generally did not, as they belonged to the district), maybe from the library, but then you're talking about going somewhere, asking someone, walking through aisles, finding the right book, finding the right page... to read something dry.

It didn't happen all that much. ;)

@rl_dane

Dunno, but I had a paper copy on my bookshelf from when the library was handing them out.

And someone who does computers in 1986 could presumably have gotten it from the budding Project Gutenberg, where the constitution was the fifth piece published, in 1975? I forget if it was accessible beyond a limited network at that point, though.

@rl_dane

Surely it got shared around on some of the BBSes at the time.

@amin

Possibly, but disk space was quite expensive, too.

@rl_dane

It's less than 50kB!

~] curl -s https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/5/pg5.txt | wc -c 48329

@amin

Sure, but how is a BBS Op going to get just that one file?

If PG was available at all, it would be in rather large zipped corpi, and probably not individual files.

I'd never even heard of it until I got into university.

@amin @rl_dane

If it helps, I had absolutely no idea there was anything to to with copyright in the constitution until I saw this comment. And I would consider myself well above average in terms of copyright knowledge.

@OpenComputeDesign @rl_dane

Heh, well, it doesn't use the actual word "copyright"

@amin @rl_dane

Ah, well, if it doesn't come up when searching the keyword copyright, then yeah, that does leave it a little more "obscured"

@OpenComputeDesign

Well i knew :3

@amin i guess that makes us more awesomer?

;)

@rl_dane