lumpenproletariat5d ago
crime is a spook
Show threadNostraDavid5d ago

That’s the point of government: the state has a monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force.

That’s from “Politics as a Vocation” by Max Weber. It’s also why the population needs to beat back if that violence isn’t legitimate (i.e. it’s abusing the population in the first place).

Show threadlumpenproletariat5d ago

Or dissolve the government and realise offloading societal obligations to use violence to a hierarchical organisation is not the solution.

If there must be violence, let it come from the people for the people.

Show threadMinnesotaGoddam5d ago
Government is like money. Get rid of it and people will create it again to fill the function they need it to fill, so let’s have it do what we need and help instead of harm
Show threadcommie5d ago
you’re making that up
Show threadMinnesotaGoddam5d ago
Show threadcommie5d ago
your gif broke. but i foundi t, and it’s just an appeal to ridicule, not evidence for your claim.
Show threadMinnesotaGoddam5d ago
i thought you were making a joke (one i liked, too) that i said people create things. no worries, it’s hard to communicate tone over text.
Show threadcommie5d ago
straight up mott and bailey. retreat from your specific, unjustified claim to one very broad and easy to defend.
Show threadMinnesotaGoddam5d ago
sorry, but you’re committing the fallacy fallacy and i don’t debate people who do that bullshit
Show threadcommie5d ago

you’re committing the fallacy fallacy

wrong, but you just did.

Show threadMinnesotaGoddam5d ago
let us spout the names of fallacies instead of talking, that is productive. that’s you.
Show threadcommie
another appeal to ridicule, but no evidence that money or government are inevitabilities.
Apr 7 at 8:29pmWeb
Show threadMinnesotaGoddam5d ago
i mean, i’m not the one here demanding a debate like i suck off statues of ben shapiro and charlie kirk every night but you do you
Show threadcommie5d ago
i explicitly said i don’t want a debate.
Show threadMinnesotaGoddam5d ago
yet you keep demanding i provide logic and evidence. what is that but demanding a debate? do you really think everyone here is that stupid?
Show threadcommie5d ago
i am not demanding anything. i’m pointing out that you literally made up your claim, and rather than even try to support it, you play rhetorical games.
Show threadMinnesotaGoddam5d ago
that’s how speech works. people make up what they say. do you shout that at everyone?
Show threadcommie5d ago

that’s how speech works. people make up what they say.

when making claims about the natural world, doing that is worse than just keeping your mouth shut.

Show threadMinnesotaGoddam5d ago
shame you wouldn’t recognize when you’re talking to an expert, since they have information and experience that contradicts your keyboard warrior lifestyle. but go off.
Show threadcommie5d ago

an unsupported appeal to authority.

if you were an expert you wouldn’t have made the erroneous claim.

Show threadMinnesotaGoddam5d ago
there you go with your fallacy fallacy again ben
Show threadcommie5d ago
wrong.
Show threadInputZero5d ago
Fine you don’t want to have a debate or have people challenge your opinions. You only want to tell others that their opinions are objectively wrong and everyone else except for you and your chosen few are idiots. My dude, what you’re doing isn’t new, I’ve been seeing it on the internet for decades.
Show threadcommie5d ago

I am right, they are wrong. they made baseless claims and proceeded to posture as though I was wrong for calling them out.

your characterization doesn’t change any of the facts.