Whenever I talk about abolition, someone inevitably brings up victims' rights. And I agree, people who experience violent and terrible crimes should have rights. They need care. They need therapy. They need community. They need protection.

None of which is provided by our system of cages.

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The more we, as human beings, learn about how various circumstances affect the brain, the more it baffles me that anyone would support prison as a social positive. Like, all evidence shows prison does far more harm than good.

@CorvidCrone @theleftistlawyer There is justice and revenge. Justice would have criminals helped to be functioning members of society so as to not be a threat when released. Revenge is more or less the current system. “You must suffer, then you get thrown out onto the streets and figure out how to not be bad again on your own.”
@CorvidCrone @theleftistlawyer it's called a justice system, but in practice it's largely a vengeance system

@theleftistlawyer to "what about victims" i say: what about victims who want accountability for the people who harmed them, without it involving prison?

a lot of people just want whatever harm has come to them to stop, and they shouldn't be put in the conflicted position of knowing our current means to make that happens involves prison.

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why does this read like 'states rights' or 'parents rights' ..

like um victims rights .. to do what exactly? get care, receive treatment, therapy? yeah no definitely should have that ..

or do they mean the "right".. heavily brutalize and violate the rights of someone else.. which .. is not; and should not be ever be a 'right' at all.. like wtf but also .. its not even the victims doing that .. its the state doing that; with or without their help 

@theleftistlawyer A system which is also built on cheap labor.... Provided to wealthy companies and individuals by the Prison-Industrial Complex.