Church of Jeff
Chalkwhitehands
Leeloo@andrewplord
Who is the blonde white guy?
Who is the blonde white guy?
wendythedruid@jeffowski Never. Jesus also never said anything about gay people (or any person in the #lgbtqia spectrum).
Margaret Moonshadow@jeffowski Yep. And so much else. I think Jesus went to the moon with the astronauts. He was getting tired of putting his fingers in his ears and saying nah nah nah nah every time Pete Hegseth asks Americans to pray.
contrasocialI get the sentiment, but Jesus did say he came to fulfill the law (of the old testament) not banish it. The old laws describe being lgbt as an abomination.
So even in Jesus's eyes there's a good theological argument that being trans and gay is still sinful, but it's simply something you're suppose to be "cured" of if you convert to Christianity.
I only point it out to describe how Christians justify this stuff and why appealing to Jesus's broader sermons isn't necessarily enough.
derptron@contrasocial @jeffowski I think saying that the old laws describe being LGBT as abomination is an interpretation and I don't think it's probably the one the authors meant.
If that's the interpretation you have though Luke 19 then tells you that those who refuse to change their ways should be dragged before him and slain at his feet. There are other ways to interpret that also, but it would seem the most direct and straight forward one.
@contrasocial @jeffowski Also, the ones who use this and say that Jesus came to fulfill the law rather than eliminate it have their little get out of jail card for anything they think they should be allowed to do anyway: teh law is fulfilled and now it's all about grace. LGBTQ+ is still evil because it's disgraceful but murder and mayhem are not.
@contrasocial @jeffowski
The old testament doesn't say a lot about trans people (if anything at all), and the no pedophilia commandment was only changed to no gay stuff after the church became the organisation that protects pedos.
The old testament doesn't say a lot about trans people (if anything at all), and the no pedophilia commandment was only changed to no gay stuff after the church became the organisation that protects pedos.
Michael BaconJesus: "I wish I could, like a mother hen, gather you in." (Luke 13:34)
Reactionary Xians: "Weird pervert."
Nazo@jeffowski I think it was the "'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these." verse. No, wait, that couldn't be it because the "devoutly religious" definitely don't believe in that one. I think they have decided that Jesus was a fool when he said that apparently.
Alexander Fox
That_Damn_Frank@jeffowski
"Funny. Gods angels had swords, not guns..."
- Over heard but not written down
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@jeffowski I'm pretty sure Jesus's trying figure out why he is the motivator for war;he taught people to hate the poor, sick, weak, brown, yellow, red, female, planetary life forms, etc.
I think the old saying from when I was young may apply: "Jesus is coming, and boy is HE pissed."😉
bhaugland@jeffowski there’s no greater hate then Christian love
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BareAssBrar@jeffowski it was around the same time he told people it was ok to bully fat kids, short kids, abnormally tall kids, kids that appeared gay etc etc. It’s actually called, human nature. Not a particularly nice trait, but hey, welcome to life.