Randahl Fink15h ago

Many are asking me to put my videos on PeerTube, but every time I look at it, I see an overly technical user experience that I do not trust to take off.

What we need is for Mastodon to become a video platform, so THIS social medium which has now matured and people clearly love, gets robust video features.

You do not beat YouTube by making users jump through hoops to watch a video. You beat YouTube by making user sponsored creator videos turn up right in the Mastodon feed.

@anderspuck

Show threadBenjamin Lyng Jørgensen15h ago
@randahl i strongly disagree. The main problem is not user interface, its content. People will join whatever has the content they want. Also your critique of peertube could also be said for Mastodon, yet here were are. Yes, there is room for improvement, but that will only come with people using it.
Show threadRandahl Fink

@benjaminlj If you are right, then I suppose in a few months @anderspuck will have hundreds of thousands of subscribers on PeerTube, like he does on YouTube, just because his content is now available on PeerTube.

Forgive me, but no matter how much I love Anders’ content, I doubt that. Because the UI experience matters.

My average 60-year-old viewer on YouTube has zero incentive for switching to an inferior user experience on an unknown platform with a UI she does not understand. Zero.

8:48amIvory for iOS
Show threadBenjamin Lyng Jørgensen11h ago
@randahl @anderspuck okay, no. But no amount of UX-work could pull your regular viewers away from a platform they've been using for a decade. My point is that the problem is cultural much more than technical. But if the content is good, the tone is friendly, the moderation fair ect. we might slowly pull more and more users towards the fediverse. #enshitification on YouTube will help too.
Show threadBenjamin Lyng Jørgensen11h ago
@randahl @anderspuck by the way logicofwar.com isn't peertube so you're criticising the wrong thing. And I agree that the option to subscribe with a fediverse account from there is missing there.
Show threadAnders Puck Nielsen10h ago
@benjaminlj
I think @randahl is referring to my actual PeerTube account, which is @wartalk.
Show threadD5V311h ago

@randahl You were kind enough to respond to me once here in the Fedi. That made me look at your content closer. I now see and actually read more of your posts. Sadly, none of the content is from a Google related platform.

Some of us don’t have stellar service or unlimited data for videos anyway. My concern would be having videos suppressed on a whim.

Cheers

Show threadRandahl Fink10h ago

@D5V3 what do you mean by "Sadly, none of the content is from a Google related platform"?

When I publish YouTube videos, that is to a Google platform. Not because I want it to be, but because Google owns the de facto monopoly, YouTube.

Show threadDennis Melhede7h ago
@[email protected] @[email protected] @anderspuck I wouldn't say zero. I for one can't get fast enough away from YouTube, those advertisements are getting totally ridicoulous. Sometimes a video is interrupted every single minute (it feels like), and I really REALLY hate it. I am searching for my content elsewhere, but I can't find it. Btw I am 60+.
Show threadRandahl Fink6h ago

@dennis_melhede I completely understand your frustration with YouTube ads, but please understand that YouTube pays for all the work going into making videos, like the ones I make.

You can then chose to watch ads, and have advertisers pay for the videos, or you can chose to pay yourself by subscribing to YouTube premium, in which case you see zero ads.

Content creators like me need to pay the bills like everyone else.

Show threadBenjamin Lyng Jørgensen6h ago
@randahl @dennis_melhede if you can't afford to loose the income from YouTube then don't blame it on the UI of Peertube that you aren't switching. I'm not saying you don't deserve an income for your awesome work. But again; it's not a technical issue, its a cultural issue.
Show threadengedal6h ago

@dennis_melhede @randahl @benjaminlj

Support PeerTube as much as we can. Upload content to both places. And for YouTube you should have installed YouTube ad blocker in your browser.

Show threadDennis Melhede5h ago
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] how do you know if plugins respect your privacy, also when looking at other pages than YouTube ?
Show threadengedal5h ago

@dennis_melhede @randahl @benjaminlj

using Libre wolf