Many are asking me to put my videos on PeerTube, but every time I look at it, I see an overly technical user experience that I do not trust to take off.

What we need is for Mastodon to become a video platform, so THIS social medium which has now matured and people clearly love, gets robust video features.

You do not beat YouTube by making users jump through hoops to watch a video. You beat YouTube by making user sponsored creator videos turn up right in the Mastodon feed.

@anderspuck

Future of Innovation with Troed Sångberg at EBE11

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@troed @randahl @anderspuck @Gargron indeed, the video plays fine, but then I tried search: "1 result on this instance for futurist" [what? 'instance'? ...]

@maridonkers But that's the whole point. If I join a knitting instance for subscribing to knitting videos, I wouldn't want Call of Duty live streams popping up. There is a federated search as well, and also curated content (and instance can subscribe to other instances and channels for its own users)

But yeah, the PT UX could be improved

@troed @randahl @anderspuck @Gargron

@maridonkers

Well, ok, I get your point - but how to improve this?

Some video sites (universities etc) would surely not want the default search selection to be fediverse-wide.

@randahl @anderspuck @Gargron

@troed
1. I cannot watch your video inside the Mastodon client app I am using. Instead I am forced into another platform with a different UI.
2. I cannot comment on your video without going through an additional authentication process on a different platform.
3. The comments are not visible under your post here on Mastodon.
4. I cannot become a financial supporter of your content.
5. I cannot see suggested content from other Mastodon users at the end of your video.

etc.

@anderspuck @Gargron

@randahl

I think it boils down to you already having a Google account, which means that if you watch a video on Xitter you're already - in addition to X - authenticated on Youtube.

The same isn't done in the Fediverse. Your Mastodon account isn't automatically also a PeerTube account [on the instance with the video being hosted]. I mean, my account on my Mastodon instance isn't an authentication to mastodon.social either.

This will only be solved if Mastodon servers also act as distributed authentication servers that other Fediverse servers accept. I agree we probably should move in that direction, but the hurdles will be ... immense.

@anderspuck @Gargron

@troed that would be a really good start.

Imagine if 50,000 creators sponsored the servers to carry the video content, and it was just seamlessly available on Mastodon, and users could then support the creators financially directly from inside Mastodon.

This is what creators on X get, and if Mastodon offered something similar, I would go that route immediately.

@anderspuck @Gargron

@Gargron @randahl @troed @anderspuck You can't do the first two on YouTube as well.

Somehow I cannot get over a feeling you want free #PeerTube to do stuff that even multimilion dollar #YouTube cannot do.

You sure can find million and one reasons not to use it. Nobody is forcing you though 😀

@randahl @troed @anderspuck @Gargron Issue 1+2 are maybe a problem of your app. Try the webinterface or different app. On top of that: Peertube instances can shut comments off or require additional auth. Or can block entire instances. Thats a good thing (very good!).

Issue 3: Well: yes of course they are visible. Proof: https://social.tchncs.de/@[email protected]antastischepause.de/116346005328700120

Issue 4: Of course, but that depends on the creator. And tax regulations and more.

Issue 5: No and thats is very good. Who needs paternalism? I know for myself what I want to see. Suggestions always mean that someone is evaluating your behavior. And save it for later use - against you and for ad revenue.

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@troed @randahl @anderspuck @Gargron I don't know about you but if I click on "Support " on some of the creators I follow I can give them money to continue.
@artfors would you be so kind to link to an example of that? For professional reasons, I would like to experience how this works.
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@artfors thank you.

I see she has a Patreon account which she links to. I thought you meant that the video platform itself had support functions.

Hopefully that will become reality one day.

@randahl maybe one day. It wasn't so long ago YouTube got their own "members"
@randahl And the question was IF YOU CAN not how.
@artfors … which works like Patreon, but with 4 times the cut taken by Google.
@randahl therefore don't I support ether members or patrons, ko-fi on the other hand.
@artfors just subscribed to Veronica with my mastodon account and sent her €5 via ko-fi. 3 clicks. ;) @randahl
@artfors
Yes, there is such a support feature. I guess they will have set up a Buy Me a Coffee account or similar.
@troed @randahl