Is Trump *trying* to lose the midterms?

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Is Trump *trying* to lose the midterms? - Lemmy.World

Between rising prices and gilded ballrooms, Trump has practically giftwrapped oppo ads for Democrats.

Donald Trump thinks he can shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue, and still not lose the midterms.

Which means he’s going to cheat.

Might not even call it. One way or another, I get the impression he doesn’t give a shit.
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The midterms won’t change a thing. Trump will try and sabotage them, but let’s not pretend he has anything to fear from the feckless Democrats.

He might get impeached again. Oh well.

He believes that he will be able to control Iran just as he controls Venezuela. Controlling Iran means controlling its oil and price.

Does Trump plan on leaving the White House at the end of his term?

Remember, last time he said no.

Is he planning to end his term before his health declines? Doubt it.

Remember when all the “Never Trump” Republicans broke rank and joined Democrats to certify the election results in 2021? People forget about the MAGA Republican insurrection attempt, maybe because it was right before the MAGA Chud insurrection attempt.

So… about former Speaker Kevin McCarthy, and the rest of the neocon Republicans… where are they now? I understand they’re not exactly in a position to uphold our democracy, now.

Yeah, I think he is. I think he’s doing the most outrageous things possible to rile people up, so when they react he he can then declare Martial Law and cancel the election.

What is the GOP going to do about the record amount of retirements and empty seats if they cancel the elections?

They need the elections as much as the Dems. It’s a matter of how free the elections will be. They will happen, but will they be predetermined like in Russia, or will they be the US standard level of BS?

If he goes full authoritarian (which he’s trying to) he won’t need the elections. He or his stooges would just place sycophants into those empty spots. Given the way his angling to rig the elections, and the lack of resistance to that so far, he definitely doesn’t need the elections as we know them now.

That’s the thing some people aren’t getting: we keep thinking he needs to operate within the checks and balances of the current system. But he doesn’t need to if nobody has the will or the ability to enforce them. At that point the constraints of the current system mean nothing.

I didn’t say he operates within the checks and balances of the system. You are describing a non-free election. Those seats will be filled one way or another, meaning that there will be elections. It’s just predetermined, like Russia. That is more plausible than fully cancelling the elections under martial law. Why do that when you can keep up the ruse of “"elections"”? Why would you forcibly cancel them, making it so people directly see that you’re doing so, and give them the chance to rise up against you?

This is exactly why Russia and countries like it still hold “"elections"”. It’s easier to control the population when they feel like they still have a say.

The Democrats look more and more like a controlled opposition party every day. Likely he has nothing to fear from them, win or lose.

Fetterman, Chuck and Nancy sure but AOC, Sanders, Porter and Warren seem legit

I there’s a pac money graphic for this somewhere

Warren threw the election to biden. There is not a single white populist in the democratic party, there is no hope.

Many people are underestimating how much red and purple states are going to suppress blue votes. This is without the SAVE act suppressing an unprecedented net amount of democratic votes.

Previously we were looking at a base 3 point advantage for republicans…people got used to that. It’s estimated Trumpism expanded that to about 5% the last election…going forward it could be 8 or above. The Democrats will never will again if the save act passes. It’s just numbers.

I’ve heard a lot of people talking about how the SAVE Act may actually hurt more Republican voters, as they’re significantly less likely to have a passport vs Democratic voters

The SAVE act is too much of a wild card variable to accurately predict, too wide reaching with too much general fuckery. Most Republican fuckery requires precision so as to prevent back firing, slow well tested and generally easy to control. This is the equivalent of calling an arty bombardment on yourself, sure you may just kill your enemies or you just blow yourself up.

Wouldn’t factor too much of it before it passes, which I suspect it never will simply because the Republicans with brain cells probably want it to stay in limbo. It’s basically a no lose situation for them if it stays just a bill they support openly even if backrooms deals have effectively killed it.

You’d think running against a Russian agent, pedophile, rapist, thief, insurrectionist and an unapologetic fascist would be easy, but the Democrats will “Go High” and fuck it up again anyway.
Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
the high road is a dead end road
The dems have never been on the high road.
They are betting on there being no midterms, or provoking a 9/11 type attack and rallying support before then.
For any attack against the US, the Donvict is at the top of my list of suspects responsible at this point. It’s the new meaning of ‘America First.’

No, Trump is working on forcing somebody, anybody to “justify” either his invoking of the Insurrection Act, XOR invoking martial-law.

Try impeaching him?

That “justifies” the Insurrection Act.

Get violent against his ICE terrorism of your city?

That “justifies” martial-law.

He’s BEGGING somebody to “justify” his total-dictatorship, & thus-far people aren’t cooperating.

The problem is that he can’t be impeached, now, because he’ll just escalate & use that to “justify” his dictatorship: there’s no check/balance left, really, only a wrestling-choreography that “delays” the inevitable, now.

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I don’t disagree with your interpretation, but the problem with this mentality is everything you’ve suggested Trump is trying to incite is everything that could be done to resist his power. I worry that people who read this take walk away with the idea that the nation needs to focus on the ceiling scuff marks and choke back our bile, as opposed to fighting back against the rapists; which is Not the message I want people to have in their head.

No, Trump is working on forcing somebody, anybody to “justify” either his invoking of the Insurrection Act, XOR invoking martial-law.

Is that a logic gate? An OR is also quite likely.

He’s going to hire some idiot to pull something like the guy with a taped on scope. Mmw.
Remember the pandemic, he sucks at handling a crisis and can only succeed if dems shoot themselves in the foot and put an unpopular candidate.

she’s a woman, that’s what made her unpopular

it wasn’t a bad decision, she’s still the most qualified candidate

but americans showed what they want and they will live with it

Run a progressive woman like AOC and if she loses I’ll concede it’s misogyny. Until then I’m putting the blame on the shitty platforms these centrist women keep running on.

That’s incorrect. The Dems first ran the sitting President who vowed that he would not run a second time and waffled about for an extended period before saying he was running, and then waffled about some more before dropping out due to the extremely tepid voter opinion on his running and the Dems declaring that they weren’t going to hold a primary and appointed Kamala as the candidate.

She was already a contested candidate with very mixed opinions on her track record, plus general discontent with the party leadership, and that was before the Democrats gagged her and her running mate when they found the most effective political campaign move they could ever possibly use against Republicans when they called them “weird,” and then the Dems shot the campaign’s legs off when they started dragging around conservatives to speak at campaign rallies. In places where they had people like Cheney speak, the Dems dropped a full 3-5% in the polls afterwards compared to before the campaign speeches.

Kamala herself definitely played a part in it, as did sexism, but truthfully the Democrats, like with Hillary, looked a gift horse in the mouth and started sifting through the pile of horse shit behind it for “moderate conservatives.” I bet if they had run a candidate like AOC and, you know, actually appealed to their base instead of avoiding talking about the things that their voters cared about, things would’ve been rather different. But they’ll never willingly run an actual progressive, so we’ll never know.

If there was another pandemic right now trump would deny its existence annd even more millions of Wankees would die. And they’d die for him and for “freedumb” - willingly.
At this point, I’m not sure the dems have any feet left.
No, Trump plans on attempting to cancel the midterm elections.

He can’t, elections are done by the states, including Republican states. They want their elections, too. If he tried to suspend elections, very few states would go along with it. Maybe Florida, they’re all MAGA anyway.

He’s finding other ways, a mix of strategies.

He can’t

Who’s going to stop him, and how?

If he says that elections are cancelled, states like California, New York, Illinois, and others are going to ignore him, and have their elections anyway.

Then we can have the true Constitutional Crisis we’ve been threatening, when Mike Johnson refuses to recognize the new Congressional Rep’s from those Blue states, especially if they are replacing MAGAs.

I fear the republican states are already cheating. The only one that has balked at the newest round of changes so far has been Idaho that I’ve heard about.

States are gerrymandered to hell and run by nihilists, when the president tells them to rig their elections they will, even as they ostensibly run them.

It’s too late, 2024 was the time to stop them. We can’t stop them with the opposition leaders we have. Get new ones or enjoy republicans with absolute power.

Regardless of all of that logic you just unleashed, he’s still going to try & red states like Florida are going to help him by passing their own version of the SAVE act.

It’s already happening.

Florida has been totally rigged for decades, they’re already in the bag. He’s concerned about the Blue states, which are going to get Bluer, but also flips in Red states.

Trump’s time on the stage is waning, and the MAGAs know it. They are looking forward to a MAGA without Trump. Killing elections is not just about suppressing the Democrats, it’s also about keeping any potential rivals at bay. There are a lot of ambitious MAGAs looking to move up, and they need elections to do that.

Look at Texas. They have a LOT of ambitious MAGAs who are trying to get to the national stage. They aren’t going to let a demented lame duck loser get in the way. They want elections as much as the Dems do.

Florida has been totally rigged for decades, they’re already in the bag.

Florida isn’t “in the bag” In the past month there was a 30 point flip in the district that Mar-a-lago resides and another 17 point flip in another formerly red district. I’m worried that this won’t be allowed to play out across the state due to voter suppression in the midterms.

I’ll admit, I was shocked by that, but another Dem on the heavily MAGA state legislature doesn’t pose any threat. But statewide elections, Governor, Senators, etc. are rigged. A Dem will NEVER win one.

I’m real tired of hearing this line at this point. States run the elections, and even if he were able to get past that, republicans are on the same ballot and are also retiring in huge numbers. They need the elections to happen, they’re going to happen.

Now, you could argue that the elections won’t be free elections, and that would make more sense. Even shitholes like Russia have “"elections"”, but of course the result is predetermined. Nonetheless, Russia has “"elections"”. That’s not even getting into how the US has never cancelled an election, not even in the civil war.

Saying he’s trying to cancel the election just makes people who are considering to vote to change something for once less likely to do so, because why would they if they’re going to be cancelled anyway. You shouldn’t do the job of voter suppression for the GOP.

Regardless of all of that logic you just unleashed, he’s still going to try & red states like Florida are going to help him by passing their own version of the SAVE act.

It’s already happening.

I don’t deny that he’ll try, but them passing laws like the SAVE act show that they’re still planning on having elections. There would be no need to do voter suppression if you were just going to cancel the election. That’s the thing I’m really saying - the elections may not be free, they will cheat (or at least try to cheat), but there will be elections. I’d rather not make people feel like they shouldn’t bother voting because “the election is going to be cancelled anyway”. The more people that turn out, the harder it is to cheat.

States run the elections

According to the constitution. The same constitution that says that Trump was not elegible to run for President in 2024, because Trump had engaged in an insurrection. The same constitutions that says Trump can’t receive emoluments.

It has already been demonstrated that to the Republicans currently controlling the levers of power in the US, notable SCROTUS, the Constitution is just a meaningless piece of paper.

Did you miss the “and even if he were able to get past that” part? You know, the rest of my comment?

No, he won’t try to “cancel” the elections. First he’s trying to rig them through gerrymandering and voters suppression.
If that’s not enough, he’ll make crazy claims of frauds at different places, and will try to reverse some results.

But I can guarantee you that if none of that work, you’ll have a showdown. He knows well what awaits him would the GOP lose and he’s getting impeached. He won’t accept the results.

Just note that he’s currently using the war to kick out generals he deems not loyal enough.

Well GOP have, in my lifetime, always screwed up the economy, piled up the debt and started wars leaving Democrats to attempt to pick up the pieces. That leads to GOP once again blaming Dems for everything and Americans believing them. Now many Americans believe Dems are just as bad even though often a Dem President doesn’t have a Dem Congress or Senate so can’t get much done. But it’s never the voters fault that they are getting what they vote for or fail to vote against.

To win elections, you need a candidate who brings voters from their side. Trump brought the MAGA, an inconsistent alliance of all kind of deplorables. But they were all enthusiastic about him. Neither Clinton nor Harris had that, neither did Biden by the way. Their main platform was to be not Trump, and the rest was the status quo.

At some point, the Dems need a candidate that voters actually support rather than pick as the least bad choice. So what will it be this time? Yet another meh-candidate backed by the “good” oligarchs or a candidate people actually want in power?

He will try his hardest to cheat, but he is also pissing a lot of people off.

Now if the Stop All Voters Equality bill passes, then it’s possible we could lose tens of millions of votes due to more election rigging by Republicans, but even then it may not be enough.

It’s looking like a realignment
Doesn’t matter the damage would take a generation to fix and the heritage foundation has solidified 3/4 of its plan. The other elephant in the room is that the fascist terrorist state of Israel fully owns both parties so unless we start arresting these politicians for treason we’ll continue to be occupied by a genocidal state. This is the part where I get yelled at because vote blue no matter who which I have done my entire life and I’m pretty old and things continue to get worse. Also, candidates like Newsom are also neoliberal Israeli first fascists so there’s that too.
fuken newsom. we better not or it’s dunzo
Not Newsome, or MAGA will be back in 4 years.
It doesn’t matter, the damage is already done.
He’s knows he’s going to lose, so he wants it to be as messy as possible.

Actually that makes sense, the messier it is the more he can claim that cheating was involved. Interesting how the ICE playbook got it’s big kickoff in California and now we have a sheriff seizing voter ballets there as well.

California sheriff running for governor seizes more than a half million ballots from 2025 election

GOP sheriff in California seizes ballots as he runs for governor

A California sheriff running for governor has seized more than half a million ballots cast in a November special election from county election officials, saying he’s investigating a ballot count discrepancy. County elections officials have disputed the claims by Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco, a Republican. California Attorney General Rob Bonta, a Democrat, called Bianco’s move unprecedented and says it is designed to sow distrust in elections. Bianco held a news conference Friday saying his office had launched the investigation after receiving a complaint from a local citizens group about the ballot count from a November 2025 special election on redistricting.

AP News

California runs a top-two primary system that puts all candidates on the same ballot, regardless of party, and sends the two candidates who get the most voters onto the November general election.

Leading California Democrats are worried that their party has so many candidates, they risk splitting the vote and sending Bianco and Steve Hilton, another top Republican, onto the general election. That would be a stunning outcome in the heavily Democratic state.

Then implement ranked-choice ballots you stupid bastards