LOL!

1. the term " #Ubermensch" was coopted by the #Nazis, don't use it

2. Still today, the stereotypical #Nietzsche fan is a pathetic #rightWing " #alphaMale" turd shallowly servicing their male insecurities to *conform*

3. But the original idea: a self-mastering individual creating their own values

4. #AlysaLiu quit #figureSkating because it was toxic. Then she returned on her own terms, for her own joy, fuck the world

You don't have to like Nietzsche, it's a sly roast of #MAGA losers

@benroyce that was fairly obvious in Also sprach Zarathustra TBH.

@obscurestar

obvious to you, because you can think

to morons, not so much

@benroyce I honestly doubt they ever read it. I think the tone of the piece would be hard for them to digest.

@obscurestar

they don't read anything. they don't even read the bible yet call themselves christian, then make a mockery of what jesus said

they're all morons going on vibes programmed like robots by fox news and social media trolls

@benroyce
If we're discussing terms
like "ubermensch" with problematic associations, it's probably going to surprise you that "moron" has its roots in eugenics and white supremacism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_H._Goddard @obscurestar
Henry H. Goddard - Wikipedia

@stib @obscurestar

Correct but it's a general term today, like "idiot"

the r word was originally crafted as a neutral term and now of course is vile ableism

If someone said "i can use the r word with neutral intent because history" you wouldn't buy that

Likewise the contemporary use of the word "moron" is independent of its history

We can't fixate on historical meanings (many words have this problem) in attempt to find malice where there is none. It's just etymologically interesting

@benroyce @obscurestar @stib negative acceleration has a word in physics though. (And I would disagree that idiot is ableism with or without its etymology)

@Kierkegaanks @obscurestar @stib

some people go out of their way to look for offense

there is enough genuinely malicious offense in the world as it is, why invent and contrive offense where none exists

an excellent write up on the vile history of the word "moron" says

"All three words (moron, imbecile, and idiot) now function as general insults"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/moron-idiot-imbecile-offensive-history

i don't understand why people can't understand etymology is etymology, and current use and meaning is the only standard

The Clinical History of 'Moron,' 'Idiot,' and 'Imbecile'

The words have a less-than-savory past

@benroyce @obscurestar @stib nobody should have to be insulted!

@Kierkegaanks

definition of moron:

see: trump

definition of idiot:

see: trump

definition of imbecile:

see: trump

@benroyce @obscurestar @stib

@amiserabilist @Kierkegaanks @obscurestar @stib

don't forget the time north korea tried to insult trump in his first term

they used some sort of archaic korean-english translation mechanism

and wound up with an old outdated musty term

that turned out to be unintentional genius:

dotard

the entire english speaking world was like "what?"

then much lol

@benroyce
All true, and I am in no way suggesting that you are
using it as it was originally meant. But I think it's worth noting that there is an element of ableism in saying basically "people who have mistaken beliefs are mentally deficient".
Maybe fools, dupes, grifters, cowards etc instead. @Kierkegaanks @obscurestar

@stib @Kierkegaanks @obscurestar

but it's not an education on a meaning of a word, it's a diseducation on how word meanings shift. it's looking to create ableism, it isn't ableism. why do that? the simple common word usage does not carry the intent, and no one controls language. so why not hew to what the established contemporary meaning is rather than try to control the uncontrollable

@benroyce
I'll have to disagree. Words have power, and carry echoes of history.
There is also the point that denigrating people's intelligence because they adopt a regressive political philosophy ignores the fact that they came to that position for a reason. Simply saying, oh, they're idiots sweeps a lot of stuff under the rug, and denies any chance of dialogue or change.
@Kierkegaanks @obscurestar

@stib @Kierkegaanks @obscurestar

you the know the contemporary meaning is not the historical meaning

but you *choose* to ignore the contemporary meaning. you actively seek to substitute that. you desire to create ableist meaning that isn't there

it's baffling to me why you would do that

isn't life full of enough actual malice. why contrive malice where there is none

@benroyce
I'm confused. My understanding of "moron" means is an unintelligent person. Is this different to your understanding?
I'm not saying that it's malicious, but I do think that there is always benefit in trying to understand how people get to their points of view, starting from the assumption that all people are generally the same, give or take.
Assuming that people who hold objectionable political views are just stupid doesn't seem to me like a useful thing to do.
@Kierkegaanks @obscurestar

@stib @benroyce @obscurestar please stop flogging the dead horse

Or remove me from getting notifications.

@stib @obscurestar

"I do think that there is always benefit in trying to understand how people get to their points of view"

why?

are you trying reeducate MAGA?

what do we do with bigots and prideful ignorant on the fediverse?

we suspend them

is this ableist?

is our job to work with and deprogram MAGA morons in a loving and nurturing fashion?

no, we kick the pieces of shit off. as we should

we call them losers, morons, shitbags, fuckwits, asswipes, etc

what's the problem with that

@obscurestar @benroyce Zarathustra is easy to read, difficult to understand. Not for the simple minded.

Ayn Rand, for example, should never have read it.