aevagentoo seems nice. i'm thinking of switching to gentoo
i mained gentoo back in the day and was very proud that i slogged through the really hard installation process and learned a lot from it, but i'm relieved that the docs promise you can power through an installation in about an hour on a modern system if you are really hurried and i think that's great
also I'm enjoying reading through the handbook which is very detailed but also very clear, so that's probably a good sign
gentoo install update: crossed the point of no return about about two hours ago. now in a chroot. i skipped over the binary packages step because it's optional and my eyes are tired, so now a lot of gentoo things are happening.
oh my god there is so much linux in here
alright, after about 4 or 5 hours of careful configurating and compiling I am now the proud owner of an unbootable #gentoo system 😎 it isn't accepting the password i encrypted the disk with
I can still unlock the disk and chroot into it via the live installer though, so I probably just fucked up something with grub. an adventure for tomorrow
side thought, I think more software should have build time options to become more offensive https://packages.gentoo.org/useflags/offensive
aw, the `offensive` use flag for gentoo-artwork is just to enable some commie nonsense i was hoping it was something horny https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-301223.html
I have successfully installed gentoo on my laptop. The trick was giving up, starting over, and then realizing the "Simple EFI System Partition Layout" described in the "Rootfs encryption" page is a trap to catch wizards (the actual simple installation is the "Split EFI/BOOTx Grub layout" alternative described after it) 😌
ok gentoo? really nice. like really really nice. i haven't had that deluxe linux everything on your computer is yours feeling in a long time. this is a good distro if you don't like people taking things away from you all the time.
also for some reason I never got to the bottom of, fedora just couldn't play video? like at all? i mean, it could, if the video was really short and really tiny, but it would freeze if you full screened it or tried to seek. absolute clown show. my gentoo install doesn't have this problem at all <3
Yer Feff@aeva I'm gonna make a massive assumption here, but Fedora devs have opinions on what is included in a fresh by default to stay truely "free".
Often means you do have to enable RPMFusion's non-free repos, and replace Fedora's FFMPEG-"lite" with the full version in order to have any proper graphics and media functionality.
Antonio Patriarca
Özgür@feff @aeva Definitely true, Fedora has a goal of creating a fully open source distro. So nothing patented, nothing closed source(the foss license also needs to be approved)
Firefox also does not have drm, which is something I appreciate a lot. Only exception is binary blobs for hardware, like wifi cards etc.
the h264 patent thing is just awful, and most times you even pay for it with your pc
But I think there could be better documentation on the video codec parts.
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/what-can-be-packaged/
Asta [AMP]@aeva this is my exact current feeling
yessssss
yessssss
@aeva I'm currently compiling ardour and zynsubaddfx on the laptop so I can use it with the midi controller, and... yeah. It's a good feeling to have a computer that doesn't hate me and I can just make it do what I need/want.
V@aeva This feeling is why I settled on Slackware as my preferred distro, too, tbh.
A bit more work to set up than the average, but the tradeoff is that it feels like *my* computer, and it does what I tell it to (and only what I tell it to).
A bit more work to set up than the average, but the tradeoff is that it feels like *my* computer, and it does what I tell it to (and only what I tell it to).
@miss_rodent it stinks in here but it's *my* stink >:3
@aeva pretty much, yeah. Also def some load-bearing nonsense involved in my setup. (like using...
ls | rev | cut | rev > i.tmp
grep | sed | sed > a.tmp
cat i.tmp a.tmp | sort | uniq -u > b.list
... to generate a slackpkg blacklist file based on what I actually have installed... [regexps cut for length])
Nikita Lisitsa@aeva I've been on Gentoo for about 14 years by now and can confirm that no other system (apart from Linux from scratch maybe) gives you that awesome feeling that you *checks notes* actually own your machine.
Also, installation and problem solving is tough at times, but once you've fixed them the system is unbelievably stable. I reverb haven't had problems with sound for about a decade (until yesterday, lol, but I've fixed that in 10 minutes)
Rachael
Oblomov
Klara in the hidden land@aeva So many wizard-catching traps.
0xC0DEC0DE07EA
ellaw@aeva commies and tankies are two different things. Tankies love dictators, commies want to free people from capitalism.
Lenin and co weren't communist
Lenin and co weren't communist
Gabriele Svelto
mds2 (Michael Sch-sko)@aeva wow. That's, uh, not what I would have expected either.
SnoopJ
V'ger
@aeva I think I’ve fucked this particular thing up with installing Arch, honestly, and that’s why I haven’t done an encrypted gentoo install yet…
@aeva I just had an encrypted home partition, not an encrypted root partition, so it could be somewhat different depending on your system… if you’re using UEFI and have a different boot partition it should be similar though. The init boot image needs to have the stuff for dm crypt or whatever inside of it so that it can decrypt the partition during boot. I used mkinitcpio on arch, not dracut, but I suspect it’s similar. I don’t think I had to do anything with grub itself, but if you’re doing an MBR install and no separate boot partition, you might have to enable encryption support in grub itself. But that’s rare on modern-ish hardware.
@aeva ooooh, this might be relevant, too: https://www.reddit.com/r/Gentoo/comments/1n7fsig/dracut_with_full_disk_encryption_lvm_luks/
@aeva seems there could be device mapping issues but that something called ugrd might easily fix it
@aeva wait, I misread re: the password problem, sorry : ( have NOT had that specific issue, blehhh
Gonna blame my misreading on being sick and having a headache. Hopefully maybe some of this is still helpful though : (
Gonna blame my misreading on being sick and having a headache. Hopefully maybe some of this is still helpful though : (
Fabian Transchel
Markus Osterhoff@aeva … then maybe check the kernel modules.
@sci_photos explain
@aeva hard to remote-debug, do you get an error message?
The decryption needs certain kernel settings enabled / modules installed to work; especially
* CONFIG_DM_CRYPT
* CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM
* CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES
* CONFIG_CRYPTO_XTS
* CONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA256 / 512
* CONFIG_CRYPTO_USER_API
* CONFIG_CRYPTO_USER_API_SKCIPHER
* CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD
maybe
* CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARGON2
If not builtin [*], but compiled as [M] module: it has to be in your initrd.
(I am assuming cryptsetup / LUKS here.)
@sci_photos i'll check tomorrow i'm pretty sleepy rn
Amorpheus@aeva @sci_photos I'd follow Markus kernel config hints first. Make them built-in. You're probably missing the cipher you encrypted it with from the live environment. Then, please post GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX and your genkernel command parameters.
Ra (Freyja) (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩@aeva yeah that sounds like gentoo
@aeva Does it occasionally surprise you with an ncurses UI asking you to make a decision on something while providing seriously insufficient explanation of the various choices' ramifications?
🇺🇦 haxadecimal 🚫👑@aeva
*slaps roof* This bad boy...
*slaps roof* This bad boy...
Yukari Hafner 
@aeva Disgusteng