Anyway, setting aside the ethical concerns, it seems perfectly clear that "setting aside the ethical concerns" is *precisely* the problem.

It is what got us in to this nightmare, and it is what is keeping us in this nightmare.

Please stop pretending that "setting aside the ethical concerns" is anything but a verbal signal indicating one's unwillingness to take personal responsibility for one's actions.

@GeePawHill

That's like, the literal embodiment of evil though. When we set aside the ethical concerns, what we have left is, BY DEFINITION unethical. And how every absolute nonce that genuinely uses that phrase fails to realize that, even after much coaxing, is completely beyond me...

@Zebadiah_Carter @GeePawHill

check what "nonce" means (hint: it doesn't mean "dumb")