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Rob PumphreySome drivers should never be allowed to drive again. I'm all for lifetime driving bans.
Anna@robpumphrey This story also demonstrates what those of us who rides bikes already know - wearing high-vis makes no difference at all.
Sneezy B 🚲 
🏳️⚧️I guess it makes /some/ difference but it can't protect us against the impact of being hit or run over by tons of steel (a car/ van/ lorry).
Likewise: wearing a helmet.
I wonder if the driver was looking at their mobile phone instead of the road…
@47363 @robpumphrey High-vis relies too much on the driver actually looking at you.
If they're not paying attention, or not bothering to look properly, or playing with their phone, then it's pretty useless 😥
If they're not paying attention, or not bothering to look properly, or playing with their phone, then it's pretty useless 😥
I believe it might grab the attention of /some/ drivers. It is much easier not to notice a dark grey/ black/ blue figure on a dark grey road than a bright yellow & reflective spot.
But ofc that's only true for people who are "simply" not paying attention.
Those who are deeply absorbed by their phones don't see anything else.
Kevin Karhan 
@robpumphrey in Germany, people can actually get sentenced for "lifetime license suspension until psychological reevaluation" and it's the norm for DUI cases with casualties or other gross acts of dangerous behaviour in traffic, like purposefully running over someone.
@kkarhan
Sounds reasonable.
Sounds reasonable.
@robpumphrey Granted, that usually means they can't reapply for a license for a period of at least 2 years and will have to convince a specifically certified psychologist that they ain't relapse if not provide proof of abstinence for a long time when it comes to DUIs - at their own expense.
- But that's because in Germany, a driving license is not a right but a privilegue...
@kkarhan
A driving licence is a right, not a privilege in the UK too, but it appears to be just about impossible to ban people for life. We don't even do any re-testing of drivers, or compulsory medical checks.
A driving licence is a right, not a privilege in the UK too, but it appears to be just about impossible to ban people for life. We don't even do any re-testing of drivers, or compulsory medical checks.
@robpumphrey I mean, Germany doesn't do that either except for classes C(1)(E) & D(1)(E) and even then, people with old German Class 3 licenses (that got converted to C1E) are exempted from that.
- Personally, I think that if one has to renew said cards, they may just also do a quick vision and hearing test which doesn't cost that much.
- In fact glasses stores like Fielmann offer a free certified eye exam as they make that money by offering people glasses and contact lenses on the spot if they fail at it.
As for the tests, C(1)(E) have a basic medical checkup once every 5 years by an officially certified physician (not one's GP!) and do some more extensive checkup for D(1)(E) cuz that's for buses.
Tho at costs exceeding €10k for a DE license (which includes D1, D, D1E, C, C1, C1E, CE) - not including the necessary car driving license (exceeding €2k) it's quite rare that those that reach these do the few things that suspend them from said license.
- Not zero, but rare...
Xenotar@robpumphrey I completely agree.