Well, this is unfortunate.

"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/

Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

Sam Bent
@Gina will people ever learn proton is a massive fed honeypot or will this continue

@privateger

Tell us more about these "feds" that break the encryption the linked article says is perfectly fine.

@Gina

@troed @Gina
You don't need to break any encryption when E-mails arrive at your mailserver in perfect plain text lol
You are one swiss court order away from getting all of that stuff intercepted as it arrives.

@privateger

I assume you think that "lol" somehow makes your post true?

Tell me more about how the Swiss privacy laws enable this "fed" honeypot. You know, for them to actually intercept they'll need a whole lot more than "someone wants to".

Or maybe you're simply posting FUD on a subject you have absolutely no knowledge of?

@Gina

@troed @Gina
There is more than enough documentation on Proton sharing extensive metadata with authorities leading to arrests, multiple times. Do one search. At that point it doesn't matter whether you share message content, metadata is just as important.

@privateger

I don't need to "do a search" since I know the subject. That's why I'm calling out your FUD.

@Gina

@troed @Gina Okay bro. I'm sure you believe that.

@privateger

Absolutely everyone who has any knowledge about the Swiss legal system and Proton's ownership knows they by definition cannot be a "massive fed honeypot" - which were your words.

"bro"

@Gina

@troed @Gina Yeah, because no Swiss company has ever turned out to be a front.

Oh wait, Crypto AG. Whoops. How convenient too that Protons entire backend is fully closed source.

@privateger

If we're just throwing out random accusations I guess you're FBI? I mean. Persons have been, before.

@Gina

@troed @Gina Last I checked I don't offer an email service offering privacy guarantees you cannot possibly keep while being based in a nation that has an MLAT agreement with the US. But I see this is going nowhere, so I guess we'll disagree forever.

@privateger @Gina @troed

"while being based in a nation that has an MLAT agreement with the US"

What encrypted service, based where, do you suggest then?

(List of countries with MLAT with the US for reference) https://www.justice.gov/criminal/criminal-oia/file/1498806/dl