You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!

There's just one problem.

The US never ratified that treaty.

We want the ability to control our own waterways, including through things like the Jones Act that would arguably violate that treaty.

So...we never signed it.

So now we're angry with Iran for violating a treaty neither of us is a party to.

@theleftistlawyer I don't even think they closed it, they're just bombing any ships that come in and out of it that are not from a country they like or are affiliated with the US.
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Any country that has failed to sign up to the International Criminal Court should have no standing in international law.

@NMBA @theleftistlawyerd So I guess it is up to Canada to invade the US and depose the illegal government that has been claiming legitimacy the last eighteen months.

Elbows up!

@theleftistlawyer Why would Iran suddenly "close" the Stait of Hormuz? It's so unfair.

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Isn't the USA blockading Cuba?

Venezuela?

@theleftistlawyer which is to say that simply, there's a major fictional component in international law. The amount of ammo dictates more than the amount of text. This applies not just to the Persian Gulf, but everywhere.
@theleftistlawyer @Binder Someone should tell Rubio that the U.S. can’t legally be attacking Iran, and see how that goes over.

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Right, legally, one can’t close the airspace over one’s house by firing a machine gun into the air.

There’s the itty bitty matter of getting one to stop once they start.

@BenHM3 @theleftistlawyer The Strait is narrow enough to be Iranian territorial waters, as well as Oman on the other side. As I understand it Oman signed a treaty that Iran did not sign.

The whole concept of territorial waters, the traditional six-mile limit, came from how far one could shoot a cannon from a shore fort.

International law tends to conform to physical reality since there is no 911 to call when your neighbor pisses on your lawn.

@theleftistlawyer not just one problem: US agression of Iran is also unlawful under international law. The US does not care a shit on international law, in general. That’s not a problem, is a modus operandi.

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>The US never ratified that treaty.

They even don't care shit about treaties they ratified, like e.g. "CONVENTION AGAINST TORTURE AND OTHER CRUEL, INHUMAN OR DEGRADING TREATMENT OR PUNISHMENT"

cf.:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_in_the_United_States#Domestic_torture_in_modern_times

Torture in the United States - Wikipedia

@theleftistlawyer the government of the USA of A making up shit as they go along, shoot from the hip, yee haw … dumbasses … doesn’t Israel tell the USA what to do now anyway?
@NineStonesClose @theleftistlawyer If you mean ”Israel controls the US”, that’s a classic antisemitic propaganda trope. If you mean ”Trump does what the last person he spoke to said”, that’s probably true.
@ahltorp @theleftistlawyer antisemitism is often used as an excuse by the uneducated and the politicians to shout down anything said these days against the current genocidal expansionist Israeli state. You maybe need to read some books about what antisemitism actually means.
@NineStonesClose @theleftistlawyer What I wrote was that it’s a ”classic antisemitic propaganda trope”. It’s dangerously close to what some people are saying that’s actually antisemitic, so please tread carefully.
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@ahltorp @theleftistlawyer yes, it’s an example of a case by a political philosopher who is well known for being provocative and confrontational. Nothing to do with my original comment though. When there is evidence, people can use any label they like, It also doesn’t make it fact. https://www.britannica.com/topic/antisemitism/Nazi-antisemitism-and-the-Holocaust
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Antisemitism - Nazi, Holocaust, Persecution: The storm of antisemitic violence loosed by Nazi Germany under the leadership of Adolf Hitler from 1933 to 1945 not only reached a terrifying intensity in Germany itself but also inspired anti-Jewish movements elsewhere. Antisemitism was promulgated in France by the Cagoulards (French: “Hooded Men”), in Hungary by the Arrow Cross, in England by the British Union of Fascists, and in the United States by the German-American Bund and the Silver Shirts. In Nazi Germany, antisemitism reached a racial dimension never before experienced. Christianity had sought the conversion of the Jews, and political leaders from Spain to England had sought

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@theleftistlawyer the USA could seek redress at the International Court of Justice (ICJ), if it had not withdrawn from ICJ compulsory jurisdiction in 1986

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I thought there were carve outs about wartime you can deny access to enemy shipping

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It also withdrew pre-emptively from the International Criminal Court in 2002 when George W. Bush decided it was okay to torture Iraqi prisoners of war.
@theleftistlawyer "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Frank Wilhoit

@tkissing @theleftistlawyer

'The responsibility of government is to protect the rights of the low from the tyranny of the high and not the property of the high from the desperation of the low'

From "Fly By Night' by Frances Hardinge

@theleftistlawyer @tkissing 10/10 quote reference but just a note that that quote is actually from a random internet person who happened to share a last name with that guy

still a great quote
@xeno @theleftistlawyer The "random Internet person" is Francis 'Frank' Wilhoit, a composer usually going by Frank Wilhoit. "That guy" was Francis Marion 'Frank' Wilhoit, a political scientist going by Francis M. Wilhoit. So based on the names these people used in their publish work, I did attribute correctly :)
@theleftistlawyer And neither did Iran or Israel. Israel never even signed.
List of parties to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea - Wikipedia