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@thunderbird i use TB since eternity, but to be fair, i also found 2 outlook apps installed on my windows 11 and they also do not work
@thunderbird "App not authorized" πŸ˜‘
@thunderbird oh noes 2 thunderbird instances running? No problem. RAM is plenty with #thunderbird
@SeanPLynch @thunderbird In space, the only solution I would see fit is mutt. Maybe make a symlink and call it laika
@thunderbird I'd bet mone it's running babyian on PowerPC 64-bit, so it wouldn't even be difficult.

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More like replacing one problem with another. My #thunderbird was taking 10 seconds to handshake and read my outlook mail. I switched to #betterbird and that problem disappeared.

If you look at all the outstanding bug requests on #tbird, you'll see why #Mozilla products are no longer the browser/email client of choice.

@portlandia999 @thunderbird oh, I'm sorry you're experiencing issues.
Would you mind reporting the bug in bugzilla, or sending me a message directly?
Betterbird is a soft fork of Thunderbird, so the protocol code is exactly the same.
It might be that your problem was solved when setting up a new profile in Betterbird for different reasons, but I would love to investigate and solve your problem, so you can come back and not use a less secure version of Thunderbird :D

@alecaddd @thunderbird

Thanks for your reply :>)

After an update, TB started doing 6 or more handshakes to read 2 Outlook inboxes.

I updated again and it didn't fix it, so I tried BB which worked. BB uses the same TB profile so that is not the issue.

I would normally try TB updates until the issue is fixed, but with Mozilla putting AI into its products, I prefer to use alternative forks which don't (including Waterfox). If that changes I will consider switching back.

Thx

@portlandia999 @thunderbird I'm sure you know this already, but just in case, Thunderbird development is independent from the general Mozilla push for AI.
We're not adding any AI features in Thunderbird and we're not planning to do that.
Maybe add-ons in the future, but just for those users that want to experiment with it.

Anyway, I would love to help you fix your issues since we want to improve support for Outlook inboxes.

Let me know if you feel comfortable reporting a bug.
Cheers

@alecaddd @thunderbird

Ok, good to know.

I now have separate profiles for TB and BB because updating TB locks out BB. So based on what you've said, I will continue to update TB and the problem will hopefully be fixed at some point, so I will consider switching back since I've used TB a long time.

A lazy approach, but sorry, not much for doing bug reporting.

Thx

@portlandia999 @thunderbird I'll let our protocol developers know about your issue and we will try to investigate.

Please, let me know if anything changes.
Thanks for engaging with us!

@Portlandia
you'll see why #Mozilla products are no longer the browser/email client of choice

Speak for yourself πŸ˜‰

A show handshake can be caused by sooo many different things, and without having even a hint of what's causing it, you can't simply blame it on TB.

Start by watching what's happening on the network: big change that TB is waiting for packets from the server.
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@thunderbird Ah someone finally updated it ?
@thunderbird at least they'd had a todo list app builtin… and some chat to friends (like me) too…
@thunderbird For Exchange server backend you definitely want to use #Evolution πŸ˜‰
@theron29 @thunderbird We support EWS since late last year, so NASA really has no excuses :P
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In all fairness, Thunderbird runs like treacle, even on a modern well specced PC.
@electron_greg @thunderbird I just switched back to Thunderbird after years on webmail and yeah, performance is not what I would call one of its strengths
@thunderbird That's pretty much what I said to myself when I heard the astronaut say that on NASA's live feed. 🀣
@thunderbird Honestly, after being user and supporter, this is the second application I'm planning to remove, after I cleaned my systems from Firefox 148 onward, after being a user for twenty years.
The trigger would be again any unwanted AI intrusion: let's see how it goes.
@luca You can also switch the AI off, of course. Nobody is forcing you to use it.

Let me know what you replace TB with, and if it offers the same quality and features.
@hans Right now, Betterbird.