Class casts a long shadow: graduates from disadvantaged backgrounds earn 13% less a decade after leaving university; a gap larger than headline gender pay gaps.

Controling for University & course choice this gap drops to around 7%, but when you compare graduates with the same degree, from the same university *and* the same employer, a gap remains. Around 5% lower pay persists; over Β£2,800 a year.

Think class is a thing of the past?

#class #education

h/t Nick Harrison/Sutton Trust/LinkedIn

@ChrisMayLA6

There's a similar situation regarding college students here in the US. Those whose parents went to college are more successful than first-generation students. The difference is mainly because first-gen students are likely to be lower class and forced to work rather than pursue internships or extracurriculars, and that they often have a harder time fitting into college culture or making use of available resources due to the cultural differences between lower and middle classes.

@ChrisMayLA6 I've read several stories in the past from first-gen students of lower class background. While they experienced no explicit or hard classism or class discrimination, they did experience implicit and soft forms of same.

@kilroy_was_here

Yes, its the implicit & 'soft' forms of discrimination that both linger & are (in the UK) insidious

@ChrisMayLA6 "Controlling for university and course choice" *removes* some class bias, doesn't it, as class influences those choices?

There's plenty of outreach work for example to counter the "people like me never go to Oxbridge so I won't even apply" mindset. Which wouldn't exist if it wasn't needed.

@TimWardCam @ChrisMayLA6
We have a friend who is a heavily tattooed Cambridge PhD student. She is doing great outreach work.

@TimWardCam

all true, but what it also demonstrate was even with the 'right' degree prejudice is still evident (which is interesting if there is an argument that the 'best' universities are aids to social mobility)

@ChrisMayLA6 @TimWardCam Could be effect of employer prejudice &/or relative lack of confidence of "non-standard" applicants. I'm not surprised.

@annehargreaves @ChrisMayLA6 I once saw a CV which said "University of Hertfordshire" and then in big letters "formally Hatfield Poly".

Very sensible of the applicant. Hatfield Poly had a good reputation for that sort of graduate, but at the time nobody had ever heard of the (recently rebadged) University of Hertfordshire.

@TimWardCam @annehargreaves

I was once interviewed for a senior lectureship at the Open University & didn't get it... some time later talking to one of the panel members (who was drunk & indiscreet, and didn't realise that I *was* that candidate)) at a conference, they told me the Head of Department had said it was close between the top two candidates on one panel but had used the OU degree to discount the second placed candidate (and yes through the context I knew it was me)... extraordinary!

@ChrisMayLA6
Background comes with many subtle disadvantages. Maybe your salary expectations are lower, maybe you don’t know about as many options to save, maybe at uni you feel uncomfortable eating in formal hall, so you avoid it, meaning you mix only with others with similarly lower expectations. And so on.

@KimSJ

Hmmm.... maybe, and certainly wouldn't discount that. But I've also seen plenty of prejudice in the university sector based on which university you went to & how you speak (look)

@ChrisMayLA6 does that include the graduate tax or just gross salaries?

@Pionir

The implication was gross salary, not net

@ChrisMayLA6 so a double whammy then!