fossilesqueKilling the intellectual future of Iran. Science has no borders.
FiniteBanjoCorrection, that is not Israel’s goal. Israel’s goal is to expand their own territory, and it should never be allowed.
If Israel’s goal was the collapse of the Iranian state then that would be admirable because it’s a horrible fucking state. But, again, it is not.
CarbonIceDragonA failed state doesn’t just imply the fall of a government, it refers to a degradation of the conditions of a country such that effective governance by anyone is impossible for a period. Think like has happened in Somalia, or Haiti. I’m not going to claim that the Iranian government is a particularly admirable one, but that kind of condition would be even worse for the people living there, and the chances of that process resting in something significantly better when the country finally recovers again aren’t terribly high.
TBH I think even total anarchy, with roving bands of raiders, might be better than a country that wages war on every neighbor and kills thousands of protestors in a short time period. The fact that they ally themselves with China is just more on the pile.
bainesYou’re arguing with a strawman on that one.
no I’m advocating that attacking institutions of medicine and science runs counter to actually improving anything you claim to care about
these were the people least likely to be a party to the actual Iranian atrocities
i can’t tell if you are just arguing in bad faith, some kid inheriting beliefs from older family members or just not too bright
Oh wow so cool
Except I never defended attacking those institutions? In fact, I condemned Israel for their actions. So you’re literally arguing against a made up person who holds the stances you oppose. You’re basically having a self-argument and forcing me to witness it.
Lenin's Dumbbell Fuck off fed
If Israel’s goal was the collapse of the Iranian state then that would be admirable because it’s a horrible fucking state.
pick less inflammatory words than because it reafs like you do
Idk how you got that far into the comment without seeing the first line directly before it:
Correction, that is not Israel’s goal. Israel’s goal is to expand their own territory, and it should never be allowed.
Seems like you and the rest of these tankie fucks just have a skill issue.
小莱卡For a moment there I thought you were describing the USA.
You won’t hear any complaints from me if you support killing Trump or funding the resistance, as long as that resistance isn’t backed by something worse like China.
lumpenproletariatNothing is worse than the US.
lmfao
Iran executes gay people and helped Israel (who is also worse than the USA) start a genocide.
The US rapes children and covers it up.
And Iran did not help Israel start a genocide. Fuck off with that “oh they helped Palestinians/Hamas defend themselves, that means they’re responsible for Israel’s genocide” shit take you keep trying to push.
The GOP rapes children and covers it up, the USA investigates and sentences them for their crimes. In North Korea childrape and marriage is accepted as standard procedure for the Kim dynasty, in Iran there is no minimum age for marriage nor consent.
US soldiers gang raped girls before murdering them during the Mai Lao Massacre for just one example.
Sexual abuse of children and lack of consequences is a historic, ongoing, and deep seated pattern of behaviour from the American state.
You can try to point out a few bad things other states do, but ultimately the US has done more and worse for longer. The US is the most evil country around and its citizens eat up the propaganda that they’re good.
I literally just oulined how the bad thing that people get put in prison for in the USA is perfectly legal in those other states. The USA isn’t the worst by a longshot.
Iran backs and funds the Hamas (an internationally recognized terrorist organization), and Hezbollah (an internationally recognized terrorist organization), the Houthi rebels (an internationally recognized terrorist organization) and the iraqi separatist groups (…you guessed it). They have spent trillions of $ fostering violence in attempts to destabilize the entire Middle East, not just Israel. It’s no coincidence that they are also attacking almost every other Arab country in the Middle East right now.
Death to the US. It was founded on genocide. It is nothing more than a much more successful Israel. Both US and Israel must be dissolved if humanity is to progress
I see they brainwashed you good
Anarchy is not roving bands of raiders. That’s Mad Max you’re thinking of.
Anarchy is a way of living without a hierarchical authority dictating to the people.
It doesn’t have to be, but it certainly can be. I’ll have you know that the roving band of raiders are well read anarcho-communists helpfully enforcing their anti-hierarchical beliefs via a system of rotating shifts of enforcers of public safety and security, and forcefully redistributing food. It’s just that this specific case happens to involve killing everyone who disagrees with them.
True, let’s hope Israel falls into Anarchy. Ah wait, they only starve the people they ethnically clean, are you talking about Israel???
Random fact: Gaza depends on Israel for both its water and electricity. I’ve never found a “genocide believer” who can explain why Israel would continue to provide both if it truly is attempting to commit a genocide.
They realize they have to kill them slow or else other countries will step in. It’s also why they’re fighting tooth and nail against the ICC’s genocide determination, even having VISA and Mastercard blacklist the judge.
So you’re implying that Russia’s attack on Ukraine should have never been allowed as well - but I have yet to see any American 🇺🇸 troups there.
I see their long range missiles there, despite every effort by the compromised Trump admin.
Thats a cute narrative, but unfortunately it doesn’t align with reality in the slightest-
- Israel gifted the Sinai peninsula to Egypt in return for peace
- Israel attempted to return Gaza to Egypt after the `67 war, Egypt refused to take it back
- Israel attempted to return the West Bank to Jorden after the `67 war, Jordan refused to take it back (aka the “Allon plan”, google it)
- Israel has entered Lebanon multiple times to clear out the PLO and Hezbollah’s forward positions which were attacking Israel. Every single time it has pulled back to international borders once the threat was removed.
- Israel offered the PLO a 2-state solution on 98% of the land it demanded (Gaza/WestBank). PLO declined.
- Israel unilaterally exited Gaza in 2005 and handed it over to the Palestinians to self-govern. The Palestinians immediately used their newfound independence to attack Israel.
All of the above is public history which is a single Google search away. Be better.
That would be a really great argument, if not for the fact that Palestine has been shrinking in land area for decades and that Netanyahu’s regime helped Iran supply funds and weapons to Gaza.