Having awarded a major contract to (controversial) data firm Palantir, a growing number of NHS staff are refusing to work with the firm's tools for ethical reasons, with wider passive resistance to its deployment.

One manger said: 'People are saying, ‘I refuse to work on this software. You have to find something else for me to do’... They’re calling it a workplace adjustment. [as] if you were disabled & needed a different desk, they’re literally treating it like that'! 

#NHS #Palantir
h/t FT

@ChrisMayLA6 I was really pleased to see this.

I wrote to my (labour) MP saying I wanted to opt out of my data being given to Palantir (or anything associated with Peter Thiel) and got a very wet response about 'your data won't be hacked' (as if that was the issue...) I pointed out that having the big fox in the henhouse, keeping the other foxes out, didn't reassure me!

I didn't get a further response, but it does seem I'm not the only one in expressing such discomfort!

@thechildofroth

I've heard variations of this said before and while it might be a neat political deflection it completely misses the point.

MPs are mostly, sometimes laughably ignorant of technology but you'd hope that they'd make an effort to keep up with some of the more obvious technical trends and public sentiment.

@ChrisMayLA6

@ReggieHere @ChrisMayLA6 to be this far in to the 21st century and not understand surveillance capitalism, as a politician, is a pretty scary place (for those of us represented by these people) to be!

@thechildofroth

I suppose the question is to what degree our MPs are aware of the global geopolitical implications, and by extension whether they themselves are conflicted.

Running a country using software and infrastructure provided by a foreign government raises some serious questions about national sovereignty.

@ChrisMayLA6

@thechildofroth @ChrisMayLA6
How can your MP be sure your data won’t be hacked? Is this her area of expertise?
@OneInterestingFact @ChrisMayLA6 They can't, they were just passing on the canned response they'd been give (by Palantir)
@thechildofroth @ChrisMayLA6 You just needed to notify your local GP practice.
@ChrisMayLA6 BTW https://gwallter.com/politics/who-is-louis-mosley.html like it says; you can't choose your ancestors, but when your grandad was Oswald Mosley, you might think twice about taking a role leading a company named after Sauron's all seeing eye of corruption, who (for anyone paying even moderate attention) are the vanguard of tech-bro fascism....
@ChrisMayLA6 The other thing i asked my mp was if they thought Peter Thiel was a fit and proper person, for a nominally progressive govt, to deal with and then had to follow up when I realised they couldn't answer because govt hadn't procured the service, but direct awarded it on the back of some shady business with Mandelson....
@ChrisMayLA6 at least some people do have balls.
National Health Service...?
@cy If it’s a genuine question in the UK the countries have free healthcare at the point of need. You pay nothing. It’s the same in the western world except the USoAmerica where people are expected to pay for every paracetamol.
No, my genuine question is why the flying fuck is the National Health Service doing business with Palantir?!
@cy Ahh well this is where it gets interesting, NHS England is run by Downing Street who have been trying to sell bits of it off to their pals for years and privatise it. NHS Scotland is run by Bute House who represent the people and have not tried to sell it off and resisted such changes. I’ve not really checked for sure on this but I’m guessing this is an NHS England issue. 😁
Would that the whole world could be ruled by Scotland with an iron fist...

@kDelta @cy

Interesting, do you know this from inside knowledge, if you don't mind me asking.

I head noises about 5 or so years ago where it was being pushed in some tech circles in Scotland for the local health partnerships, I was aware of Palantir then, and was quite vocal in my opposition.

@houba I may be incorrect, I was just saying in general. ☺️
@ChrisMayLA6
I’ve attended 3 NoKings days in nearby Palo Alto, home of Palantir, which inspired my sign to reference British author’ John Brunner’s “The Shockwave Rider”:

@ChrisMayLA6 Good. Fuck Palantir and all stupid shoehorned in "spicy autocorrect" BS. Pushback has to happen in every company using these "tools", for as long as it takes for corporations to realise they are not profitable.

In fact, they are costing them money and time and people. Why spend more on some garbage in garbage out system that is only going to cause more headaches and frustration?

@ChrisMayLA6 the Grauniad was also reporting last year, when the DoH was leaning on NHS Trusts to accelerate its introduction, that frontline staff were also in revolt because the software was useless compared to what they were already using

Let’s hope the backlash kills it once & for all. Then we just need Palantir extricated from the police, military and all the other aspects of government in which they have been embedded

@Simon318ppm

Yup, exactly what we all need to do where we can

@ChrisMayLA6

This is encouraging news and I can even understand the choice to reuse an existing process to cater for the detractors, but I'm left wondering whether the govt understands or cares about the wider issues of technical sovereignty.

@ChrisMayLA6 Fabulous. Full respect to the individuals involved. Minister Streeting will predictably attempt strong-arm tactics , but will face solidarity and strike action. He has lost, and must back down. Wise citizens loathe Palantir and everything it stands for. NHS data is PRIVATE to citizen patients &, by consent, their NHS doctors.

@ChrisMayLA6

Thank you for info

One manger said: 'People are saying, ‘I refuse to work on this software. You have to find something else for me to do’.

A massive THANK YOU for such Persons with a conscience and backbone

Things which cannot be found in Starmers office or among his subordinated minions.

@ChrisMayLA6 "Controversial" seems like a very non-committal term for a clearly evil outfit.

@nini

British under-statement, I'm afraid....

@ChrisMayLA6 I understand, just slightly less enthused by the passive voice these days.
@ChrisMayLA6 sometimes all you can do is shake your head and leave it to Darwin...
@ChrisMayLA6 THis is the way. Such action needs to happen in anything to do with data centres too.
@ChrisMayLA6 Read yesterday that ABP, the Dutch pension fund for civil servants, and the largest in The Netherlands, has announced it is pulling its investments in Palantir.

@ChrisMayLA6 you can crank up the pressure on the uk gov by signing this open letter to the uk government to cancel the #Palantir #NHS contract:

https://www.foxglove.org.uk/campaigns/wes-streeting-trigger-the-break-clause-and-get-palantir-out-of-the-nhs/

Wes Streeting: Trigger the break clause and get Palantir out of the NHS - Foxglove

Wes Streeting: trigger the break clause and kick Palantir out of our NHS. ADD YOUR NAME NOW!

Foxglove

@ChrisMayLA6 and while we're rejecting #Palantir why not cut to the source of most problems: our behavioural data being harvested by #BigTech

I set up a non-profit, the Rebel Tech Alliance, to show people all the non-spyware alternatives that they can switch to:

https://www.rebeltechalliance.org/

We have a step-by-step programme called the #BigTechWalkout 😁 Collective action we can all take individually!

#privacy #surveillance

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