Mastodawn

Hating men is not and should not be an integral part to feminism.

Men hating is not progressive.

Men hating/testosterone hating is not okay because you are trans fem.

Only hating cis men isn’t okay either.

Trans men are men and hating men includes trans men.

(Yes, you can differentiate trans men as we’re not generally the people at issue in the same way as cis men are in patriarchy, but hating men includes us).

Not sure where I was going with this except it’s patriarchy you should hate and hating men does nothing to solve that and trans men end up getting balled into all of it when many of us have been the victims of patriarchy and misogyny our whole lives.

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australopithecus 2d ago

@Melezioh
While you're not wrong, this is also something that all masculine-presenting men just have to get used to in their lives. It's not progressive, no, and perhaps it isn't fair, but it's often a necessary survival mechanism.
After all, in the final analysis you're literally arguing "not all men" here.

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Mel 2d ago

@australopithecus I’m really not though. How am I doing so? I am saying hating men is not okay. As in hating men as a whole. And it’s not and it’s not something men should have to get used to, no matter how they present.

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australopithecus 2d ago

@Melezioh
It's the same principle as ACAB: any individual man might be a great person, but as a member of the social institution of men, none can be trusted (with the usual room for exception for actual personal acquaintances of course).

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australopithecus

@Melezioh
(and fwiw you can trust that I'm not saying this because I want it to be true 🫩)