"It would work better if the pipe guns were a less nonsense design"
fo4 pipe guns are basically better in every way compared to real life zip/pipe guns made by random dipshits
"It would work better if the pipe guns were a less nonsense design"
fo4 pipe guns are basically better in every way compared to real life zip/pipe guns made by random dipshits
"Can a Fallout lorebeard confirm whether the raiders have wasteland-melted brains and have lost a lot of their reasoning capacity, because I canโt think of other reasons for them to use pipe weapons over scavenging better guns."
they might not have access to better guns
i don't know why people don't understand this
not everyone walks around with what they want. it's an apocalyptic wasteland dude
on no account let anyone who loves new vegas touch fo5 guns
you're just gonna get a bunch of fucking garands and people will call it the best game
"Fallout modders on their way to make armor for the Minutemen based on every military on the planet and the Fallout universe except the Revolutionary War Minutemen"
in fairness the rw mm weren't that great
idea was good. execution left a lot to be desired
"This is more due to Fallout aesthetic being all over the place. It makes no sense for minutemen in 23rd century to have muskets and dusty trenchcoats with no body armor"
wait till i tell you about ncr rangers wearing gas masks and dusty trenchcoats and armor and favoring fucking revolvers in a fucking desert
"Except China fired first according to the games."
i'm glad everyone downvoted this and they deleted their account lol
"Tim Cain said China launched the bombs."
tim cain is also not in control of fallout canon
"Did the bos actually engage in outright warfare with the enclave? I thought they were just subversive. I never beat F2 though I was just a kid that liked collecting guns from encounters."
the only time the bos wins in an outright war war is the east coast bos in fo3 against the enclave
note: have not seen show, have not played fo76 for like 3 years so if something changed there i dunno lol
also i have no idea if the show is canon or alt timeline or what
"Brotherhood technology, training and weaponry is entirely top notch."
new vegas literally shows you the quality of their training lol
granted it's just one bunker...
that said the ncr evidently uses non-powered/motorized scavenged power armor so
not sure what's up with that ๐คท๐ผ
"Who bitches before confirming on the wiki anyway? "
fallout (fandom) wiki is bad, pass it on
"The games are filled with unreliable narrators that people somehow think only tell the truth. I think the worst one is the operation anchorage, which people seem to think is accurate to the events of the actual battle. Even tho there is a pre-war terminal entry describing the simulation as โdivorced from realityโ due to the copious amount of army propaganda in it."
america gud, china bad
DEMOCRACY IS NON-NEGOTIABLE
"Todd should add an intelligent speaking Deathclaw and watch the idiots REALLY melt down"
put 'er in power armor
with a dramatic cloak reveal
"An ar 15 looks out of place in a game where the opening is a 50s style animation."
fake gun guy detected
"I get that Obsidian was trying to make a parallel to event such as the Wounded Knee Massacre but they made a bit of a mistake by making every exaggerated stereotype and assumption about the victims true, thus justifying the event."
wait till you play honest hearts
"I stopped playing when you find the Ghouls in the metro and didn't play again for 7 years ๐"
honestly fair fo3 subways are great tho
"When Cait wasn't a small Irish femboy that I could equip the dog collar to and call a good boy was when I finally gave up all hope of Fallout 4 being a true RPG"
fo4 is moddable
"How is it not rewarding? It has basically the same system of fallout 3, handplaced unique weapons are always in the same spot. You can go and find late-game gear very early in New Vegas, just like Fallout 3."
i have seen this sentiment a lot and these people did not pay attention to anything in 3 vs nv
fo3 wasteland is alive and mobs interact and this creates chaotic and unexpected environments
in nv every fucking mob is in the same place and heavily leashed. your run is always the same.
3, and to a much larger extent 4, actually has dynamic encounters because of their maps and the way mobs are placed and how the behave
new vegas has none of that, and on top of it nw has barely any dungeons and the dungeons it does has fucking fuck
it's why you can fuck around in fo3 and suddenly a fucking asshole raider is suddenly one shotting you with a missile
fo4 will send everything at you semi-randomly, some motherfucking invisible assaultron, a super mutant suicider, hell let's make it a four way factional warzone in the heart of vertical downtown boston
you get fucking none of that in new vegas
go here. it's brown and flat. there are always these X ants here
go here. there are always these npcs here
the only randomization in nv are patrols, and a handful of scripted encounters if you do specific things
you never end up with a massive ncr/legion/house securitron firefight on the strip
that can't happen in the vanilla game
you can get absolutely (almost?) cross factional combat encounter situation in 3 and 4
you're fighting a yao guai and losing then suddenly a fucking radscorpion pops up outta nowhere and starts attacking the bear
then some random ass raiders join in, shooting everyone
new vegas is like kotor: this guy is always here with this other guy
you can make a straight line gamefaqs walkthrough for it with basically no deviation because it's always the same
and you know what? if you like that kinda gameplay that's fine
just recognize that it's static and not everyone prefers that
the funniest part is new vegas stans are actually split on what "good writing/narrative choices" actually means in the game, esp regarding fo3/4
one camp just repeats it mindlessly and it can mean anything, but usually it means nothing because they wouldn't recognize narrative choice if it bit them in the ass
another camp says something like "sure it's linear but that's just what obsidian does it's still a really good story!"
which is ummm... anyway, how about that info dump dialogue huh
everyone gives the railroad shit for how they operate in fo4 then "legion spies" just makes everything work in nv
infuriating horseshit
fo4 literally airdrops deacon quietly into the background as an observing generic npc to gather intel on you and that's bad writing
but "lEgIoN sPiEs"
and then you actually do the legion quest with silus and find out just how fucking incompetent the legion is even beyond what is presented in the main throughline
"How are you playing New Vegas if half the gameplay happens before you reach the titular city? Thatโs like the first 5-10 hours."
starting to think the reason they think nv is so great is because they've literally never played any other game
not rpg, just any other video game
honestly i do wonder how true that is
i sure have met a lot of people who've only ever played skyrim lol
there's a reason an (admittedly incredibly toxic bunch, just like new vegas stans) of gamers literally hate nv and love fo1/2
also you can just speech check new vegas even at hoover dam so i dunno what you're on about
"go home you can't win because logistics"
"i see your point have a good day, sorry the game spent so much time hyping me up as an unthinking murder machine anyway"
s-tier writing
hey uhhhh big bad military guy
did you consider military thing?????
new vegas: the batman v superman of fallout games
just the courier screaming MARTHAAAAAAA in lanius' face until he leaves the mojave
the great thing about this conversation tho is this it is literally after the courier cuts their way through the legion assault forces because there's no other way to resolve this (narrative choice!)
so unlike the strip/rep/mark situation... the legion actually sees you fight through their ranks
does the legion, the faction that supposedly glorifies that sort of individual combat prowess and discipline cave to that display? does that factor?
no. you no can enough meatbags
lol lmao
but hey the legate threatens to torture and rape a female courier
11/10 writing praise be to obsidian
"This guy made the best questline in Oblivion and years later went ahead and said games need to be simple and stupid. What happened?"
what happened is you're illiterate that's not what he said
(he said basically unless you spoonfeed a lot of players the content/story they'll miss it. this follows directly from what they learned in fo3/nv: fo3 had a shitton of meandering exploration lore and stuff and most people never knew about it, never sought it out
then new vegas says BULLBEARBULLBEARBULLBEAR and everyone hailed it as the best fucking writing
so... guy has a point, and new vegas stans proved it)
(for the record lots of big game companies eventually figure this shit out, in different ways
shoutout to blizzard being like why are we making massive high end 40m dungeons that only <1% of our playerbase ever steps inside?"
obviously that is a watering down of The True Gaming)
anyway you should go play outer worlds 2
i hear they could use your narrative choice angst and dollarinos
"I just like the funny cowboy game :3"
i know everyone hates caravan but me, but i still like caravan and am sad fo4 doesn't have a card game
yes yes holotapes it's not the same
"I have never seen any of these videos, is there some weird esoteric corner of the internet where people do nothing but shit talk the series?"
there's an entire sub-ecosystem of gamer youtubers who just shit out popular hate videos when the news/release cycle gets low
since the internet hivemind hates fo4 it's an easy target. part of the shift more recently is the show coming out and the new vegas stans coming after 3... because the show brought players into 4/76 and they like the games
even the fo76 hate has died down some because the hardcore fallout lore fans detest the new vegas stans for *drumroll* not knowing any fucking lore
lol
arguably /r/falloutlore, while still extremely charitable to new vegas, was one of the first big "places" to push back hard against people hating 4/76 and that was absolutely for lore reasons
76 is basically the fallout god of lore game at this point
oddly i don't think i've seen ai slop of this... yet
it's all a bunch of white dudes whining about how new vegas is the best game ever and no one understands The White Man and how woke bethesda got
no, new vegas has few dungeons and they're all designed like shit somehow it's actually impressive
vault 22 does have an elevator you can repair, but you might not be able to. it's also buggy af and sometimes you can get various gamebreaking bugs
that said she does repair the elevator unless she dies which is a quick way through the floors
i love all the comments of rpg elements and "just fix the elevator"
not all builds have the skill to repair anything, much less the elevator
it's almost like you don't know what it's like playing through nv different ways... ๐ค
they're not 100% at fault here, tho, prolly
new vegas has a dogshit build system and most early level builds are gonna be close to exactly the same anyway because of how many specials points you get and how the perk unlock funnel is
@worthlessbums hah, geez
my take is that Bethesda didn't really understand the setting and so going from FO2 -> 3 was a tonal shift, coupled with the main story being *abysmal* imo
never played NV though so no opinion there ๐
@JoshJers 3 was my first fallout game and i went back to 1 and 2 after 4
i can see why some people bemoan the shift from 1->3, but tonally everything people accuse nuka-world of is just fallout 2
fo2 is the worst fucking fallout game
@worthlessbums I don't remember 2 well enough, tbh
loved the first one (especially once they patched out the "go fuck yourself, game over" time limit), didn't much care for the 3rd one, no memory of 2, didn't play 4