i also don't like morrowind but at least i understand why other people like morrowind

there are commendable bits to it

and big mushrooms 🍄

it is correct to kill vivec btw

"Plus, most people are NOT ready for a Deathclaw fight this early in the game. That suit is very likely to break during the fight, and is also likely the only reason, for most people at least, that the Deathclaw didn’t outright soft lock them at this moment entirely. It makes perfect sense when you look at it from the perspective of someone making a game and not just the critics who play it specifically to pick it apart."

the most sane comment i've read in this sub

fo5 should have ridable horses

"Procedes to FO76 where Appalachia looks almost intact"

only pre-reclamation day

i just wanna point out that classic fallout has xenomorphs

"Fallout 2 is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, half the random encounters are memes"

there are multiple videos on youtube with millions of views mad about fo4's ghoul kid in a fridge

meanwhile in fo2 you go back in time and break a water chip to make sure fo1 happens

"The problem is largely timeline-related, Fallout 1 is really early in the timeline and there are already proper settlements being built like Shady Sands. Fallout 4 is very late in the timeline and people are still living in highly impractical sheet metal death-by-heat-stroke boxes and wood shanties when they had literally about 100 years to figure something out"

fo1/2/nv have plot armor protags who murder all factions doing bad shit

east coast has supervillains fucking everything up

you also have the thing where the east coast got meganuked more than the west coast

new vegas also had house literally intercepting nukes which is why the strip even exists at all

it's almost like you don't think about lore or how things would play out at all 🤔

"why isn't the commonwealth totally recovered?!?!?!"

*institute literally kidnapping people and shitting out synths and super mutants*

it's a mystery bob

meanwhile the problems in the mojave are like "we have rifles and we can't shoot a bunch of losers armed with sticks"

best writing, s-tier

"X-01 PA as a whole is considered Lore Breaking"

lore knowledge is bad, but pa lore knowledge is the worst jankfest i ever saw

"X-01 is disappointing as it makes APA a prewar armor when Devs of Fallout 2 had it postwar according to Fallout Bible."

the fallout bible is not canon

imagine being beholden to a bunch of fucking forum posts made by a pack of assholes and an ex-dev
ask them if any super mutants have dicks for a Good Time

they were literally called mindless ghouls and zombies in fallout 1

moreover a recurring point in fo3 is that ghouls experience a lot of bigotry because people /assume/ they may go feral at any time

so... no

hey someone else got it! xD

i could be wrong because i'm tired now but i can't actually recall any non-feral ghoul in fo3 later turning feral just due to time or whatever

the sole exception has extenuating circumstances because it's the point lookout quest dealing with the krivbeknih, so it's not strictly a "normal radiation" thing, it's got that cosmic horror influence thing

this does happen in fo4's nuka-world with a whole group of ghouls tho. you also get some mystical elements there, where a ghoul gets what appears to be magical ghoul healing/resurrection powers

"It would work better if the pipe guns were a less nonsense design"

fo4 pipe guns are basically better in every way compared to real life zip/pipe guns made by random dipshits

"Can a Fallout lorebeard confirm whether the raiders have wasteland-melted brains and have lost a lot of their reasoning capacity, because I can’t think of other reasons for them to use pipe weapons over scavenging better guns."

they might not have access to better guns

i don't know why people don't understand this

not everyone walks around with what they want. it's an apocalyptic wasteland dude

on no account let anyone who loves new vegas touch fo5 guns

you're just gonna get a bunch of fucking garands and people will call it the best game

"Fallout modders on their way to make armor for the Minutemen based on every military on the planet and the Fallout universe except the Revolutionary War Minutemen"

in fairness the rw mm weren't that great

idea was good. execution left a lot to be desired

"This is more due to Fallout aesthetic being all over the place. It makes no sense for minutemen in 23rd century to have muskets and dusty trenchcoats with no body armor"

wait till i tell you about ncr rangers wearing gas masks and dusty trenchcoats and armor and favoring fucking revolvers in a fucking desert

the real reason the ncr is losing to the legion: the ncr just turning themselves into heat casualties

"Except China fired first according to the games."

i'm glad everyone downvoted this and they deleted their account lol

"Tim Cain said China launched the bombs."

tim cain is also not in control of fallout canon

somah in fo3 mothership zeta said it best when
honestly even the bos in 76 is... not great
shin was right at the end tho

"Did the bos actually engage in outright warfare with the enclave? I thought they were just subversive. I never beat F2 though I was just a kid that liked collecting guns from encounters."

the only time the bos wins in an outright war war is the east coast bos in fo3 against the enclave

note: have not seen show, have not played fo76 for like 3 years so if something changed there i dunno lol

also i have no idea if the show is canon or alt timeline or what

"Brotherhood technology, training and weaponry is entirely top notch."

new vegas literally shows you the quality of their training lol

granted it's just one bunker...

that said the ncr evidently uses non-powered/motorized scavenged power armor so

not sure what's up with that 🤷🏼

see it shows superman slow walking toward a minigun but actually what should happen is you get knocked down and you slide X tiles away

"Who bitches before confirming on the wiki anyway? "

fallout (fandom) wiki is bad, pass it on

"The games are filled with unreliable narrators that people somehow think only tell the truth. I think the worst one is the operation anchorage, which people seem to think is accurate to the events of the actual battle. Even tho there is a pre-war terminal entry describing the simulation as “divorced from reality” due to the copious amount of army propaganda in it."

america gud, china bad

DEMOCRACY IS NON-NEGOTIABLE

"Todd should add an intelligent speaking Deathclaw and watch the idiots REALLY melt down"

put 'er in power armor

with a dramatic cloak reveal

"An ar 15 looks out of place in a game where the opening is a 50s style animation."

fake gun guy detected

i do love my chinese assault rifle with the white foregrip tho

"I get that Obsidian was trying to make a parallel to event such as the Wounded Knee Massacre but they made a bit of a mistake by making every exaggerated stereotype and assumption about the victims true, thus justifying the event."

wait till you play honest hearts

"I stopped playing when you find the Ghouls in the metro and didn't play again for 7 years 💀"

honestly fair fo3 subways are great tho

"When Cait wasn't a small Irish femboy that I could equip the dog collar to and call a good boy was when I finally gave up all hope of Fallout 4 being a true RPG"

fo4 is moddable

"How is it not rewarding? It has basically the same system of fallout 3, handplaced unique weapons are always in the same spot. You can go and find late-game gear very early in New Vegas, just like Fallout 3."

i have seen this sentiment a lot and these people did not pay attention to anything in 3 vs nv

fo3 wasteland is alive and mobs interact and this creates chaotic and unexpected environments

in nv every fucking mob is in the same place and heavily leashed. your run is always the same.

3, and to a much larger extent 4, actually has dynamic encounters because of their maps and the way mobs are placed and how the behave

new vegas has none of that, and on top of it nw has barely any dungeons and the dungeons it does has fucking fuck

it's why you can fuck around in fo3 and suddenly a fucking asshole raider is suddenly one shotting you with a missile

fo4 will send everything at you semi-randomly, some motherfucking invisible assaultron, a super mutant suicider, hell let's make it a four way factional warzone in the heart of vertical downtown boston

you get fucking none of that in new vegas

go here. it's brown and flat. there are always these X ants here

go here. there are always these npcs here

the only randomization in nv are patrols, and a handful of scripted encounters if you do specific things

you never end up with a massive ncr/legion/house securitron firefight on the strip

that can't happen in the vanilla game

you can get absolutely (almost?) cross factional combat encounter situation in 3 and 4

you're fighting a yao guai and losing then suddenly a fucking radscorpion pops up outta nowhere and starts attacking the bear

then some random ass raiders join in, shooting everyone

new vegas is like kotor: this guy is always here with this other guy

you can make a straight line gamefaqs walkthrough for it with basically no deviation because it's always the same

and you know what? if you like that kinda gameplay that's fine

just recognize that it's static and not everyone prefers that

you don't understand nv is the best game best writing best story makes 9000% sense

the funniest part is new vegas stans are actually split on what "good writing/narrative choices" actually means in the game, esp regarding fo3/4

one camp just repeats it mindlessly and it can mean anything, but usually it means nothing because they wouldn't recognize narrative choice if it bit them in the ass

another camp says something like "sure it's linear but that's just what obsidian does it's still a really good story!"

which is ummm... anyway, how about that info dump dialogue huh

narrative choice is when hanlon talks for ten minutes while you get to click on various dialogue options that makes him repeat what he just said but slightly differently like a fucking 2026 youtube ai video

everyone gives the railroad shit for how they operate in fo4 then "legion spies" just makes everything work in nv

infuriating horseshit

fo4 literally airdrops deacon quietly into the background as an observing generic npc to gather intel on you and that's bad writing

but "lEgIoN sPiEs"

and then you actually do the legion quest with silus and find out just how fucking incompetent the legion is even beyond what is presented in the main throughline

"How are you playing New Vegas if half the gameplay happens before you reach the titular city? That’s like the first 5-10 hours."

starting to think the reason they think nv is so great is because they've literally never played any other game

not rpg, just any other video game

honestly i do wonder how true that is

i sure have met a lot of people who've only ever played skyrim lol

there's a reason an (admittedly incredibly toxic bunch, just like new vegas stans) of gamers literally hate nv and love fo1/2

also you can just speech check new vegas even at hoover dam so i dunno what you're on about

"go home you can't win because logistics"
"i see your point have a good day, sorry the game spent so much time hyping me up as an unthinking murder machine anyway"

@worthlessbums Program a bot to enter certain keys at certain times and let it run until it beats the game
@worthlessbums so fun getting crossfired by two different groups, barely managing to hold on, but wait, what's that sound? HERE'S THE BOS COME TO MAKE THINGS WORsE

@worthlessbums Oh yeah if you go off the happy path in FO3 you will end up a casualty in a fight between Raiders with a missile launcher and a Brotherhood of Steel patrol.

Now if you get the stealth suit from that DLC at the right time…you can go pretty much anywhere and do anything.

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@worthlessbums Reading through bits of this thread and thinking back to my FO4 playthrough.
Wife's dead. Son's gone. Clearly it's time to try and fuck anyone and everyone I can. Some with guns. Some not.
@MachineLordZero i've seen some shit at funerals
@worthlessbums So long as you flushed afterward, that's fine.