futures i still believe are possible:
- civilization no longer depends on fossil fuels
- food, housing, physical and mental healthcare for all
- no billionaires
- full reparations to the colonized and the enslaved
- computing without big tech
- an internet without advertising
- total liberation for gender nonconforming people

@jplebreton Let's hope so, but also ish.

Full reparations, I think, end up bankrupting everyone. Nations have been colonising nations for about five thousand years. Britain owes Africa and India huge reparations, true; but does Italy similarly owe Britain huge reparations for the Roman conquest?

And who should pay the reparations to the indigenous peoples of Australia and the Americas?

@simon_brooke @jplebreton bankrupting, as in liquidating assets that are held beyond those in productive use or necessary for survival and forgiving all debts?
Are we sure this at scale would be a bad thing?
@simon_brooke the status quo of reparations discourse is that a white person says "it's flat out impossible" to shut down further discussion and i personally feel like i'd be an asshole to perpetuate that. taking it seriously is the critical step to figuring out what *is* possible.
> And who should pay the reparations to the indigenous peoples of Australia and the Americas?
white people. us. proportional to how much we benefited from the extermination and violent assimilation of those people.
@jplebreton @simon_brooke
The practical aspect of paying the exterminated is significant.
@Photo55 @jplebreton @simon_brooke You know exactly what he meant.
Gtfo.
@Photo55 @jplebreton @simon_brooke Ah, just realized midge is probably someone I blocked years ago on another instance.

@simon_brooke @jplebreton First question is if the nation that perpetrated the crime still around?
If yes, they likely still benefit from it and should pay reparations.
If no – question two: does the inheritors of that nation still benefit?
If yes, they likely should pay reparations.

Then: does the affected people still exist and suffer from it etc.

In the spurious case of Britain vs Italy that's a hard no, cause Italy's far from the Roman empire and Britain's only in need of some empathy.