Peter Link'No Kings!' 8 Million Rally Against Trump in Largest Single-Day Protest in US History | Common Dreams
jordanlundHopefully they are using the opportunity to register voters and motivate people for November otherwise it won’t accomplish much.
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NJSpradlinThis administration will say those voters were registered fraudulently, and you’ll have no chance to refute them before their voter rolls/roles are purged without an opportunity to re-register before the vote. And those that do go and vote anyway? Voter fraud, tbh weren’t registered but tried to vote, straight to the gulag.
ClassStruggleVote for what, the system that led us to where we are right now?
Dadd VolanteThe French Revolution did not have a good ending. It ended with the first Nationalist Emperor in modern history: Napoleon.
I’m begging y’all to actually read some books.
Ok but one instance is not a good sample size.
I do understand that revolution allows authoritarians to swoop in and take control, but my only question is, HOW MUCH TIME WILL REFORMS TAKE? Because if it is more than 1 year, we don’t have the time. Sorry. It’s that simple. Thermodynamics is a real bitch sometimes and WE DONT HAVE TIME to be dicking around for the next 10 years while the people in power claim they are working on changing things.
It had long lasting effects tho
No kings does nothing, its funny how they organize it on sunday so their work week doesnt get disturbed lmao
Thank you! The poor/working class were just as repressed after the revolution. It’s a dumb comparison.
AnUnusualRelicAt least Napoléon got the trains to run on time!
Also he reformed the justice and fiscal system in ways that were sorely needed. He did do a bit of wars on the side, but everyone needs a hobby.
The French Revolution did not have a good ending.
I find this to be rather short sighted thinking. Yes, the immediate effect was the rise of Napoleon. But to this day, France has some of the most robust workers rights laws and policies. Their people are not afraid of protest and striking. Long term, I think the French Revolution was incredibly good as it made the upper class afraid and serves as a reminder that there are far more of us than there are them.
Then the Nazis took over and many French collaborated with them (as Stalin collaborated with Hitler 1939 to 1941).
Churchill and FDR then help liberate France.
IIUC, Charles de Gaulle then snubbed both and developed nukes.
LMAO. Books? How would I even share a good quote from a book??? Like just remember it and then tell it to someone like a caveman???
merdaverseApparently the creation of the First French Republic, which abolished feudalism and monarchy, created a declaration of human and civil rights that was foundational for a century of liberal democratic revolutions all across Europe and is still celebrated today as a national holiday, wasn’t a good ending because the forces of reaction managed to get back in power for a few years. Unbelievable…
Maybe the first republic would have lasted longer if they dressed up in frog costumes?
You sure we’re talking about the same French Revolution? There’s more than one
Lol it didn’t abolish shit. Best check when it was formed and when France had it’s last monarch.
We did go for beers after so. Not wrong.
MrSelfDestruct25It’s going to turn into a music festival soon with capitalism ruining it. Bruce Springsteen already showed up to one.
I honestly think adding a few big headlining music acts would draw in a lot of casual anti-Trump folks who aren’t yet involved with the resistance.
I’m curious now if it would have an impact.
Exactly, these protests are having the opposite effect of hurting the ruling class and the rich, because they are benefitting from this economically and financially.
Last year many articles were saying that if the protests hit 3% of the population Trump was done. Welp it’s happened, so what does his exit look like?
Otherwise this is performative bullshit while we need hard action.
“B-but it takes so much time and effort!! Don’t worry we’ll be able to do something after 5 more years of doing this once every 6-12 months on the weekends when businesses are closed.”
If you think No Kings is the only resistance work happening right now in the U.S., you’re really not paying attention.
__反いじめ戦隊Nah it’ll just be like “The day the world said no to war” which is often held as a massive achievement in nonviolent protesting despite it accomplished fuck all.
Yes. And yes. Here’s one example of resistance work in the U.S. resulting in concrete wins: Avelo Airlines used to run deportation flights for ICE. They were on the receiving end of an escalating pressure campaign from resistance groups to end those flights. And guess what? They finally did.
I don’t have SimpleX. The best resistance groups to join are probably ones local to wherever you’re located. See this comment for ideas on how to find them. But here are some examples of local efforts.
Thanks.
Seems these groups are not clear what more steps are necessary for Nazi liberation.
Each group is working on their own steps for this. And honestly that’s the strength of the resistance movement—it’s distributed, not top-down. Some groups will fail, but some will succeed. And “success” doesn’t mean that a group takes some action and instantly Trump is out of office and all of his cronies are behind bars. It means that a single win is achieved that gets us closer to that goal and puts ever-widening cracks in the regime’s pillars of support. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
This is a marathon, not a sprint.
That’s not how the Nazis in power see this, and ultimately why your slow marathon will leave you with none to save, nothing to eat.
Urgency is paramount to any successful revolution.
Americans don’t have that urgency to respond to crisis.
Tis why you’re failing to even form concrete demands.
Until the urgency to survive isn’t ingrained in your movement, your parties will be subdued, bomb, and deathcamped.
I didn’t say there wasn’t any urgency. It’s just that nonviolent resistance movements work by putting successive cracks in the regime’s pillars of support—until ultimately the whole regime crumbles. And that necessarily takes time.
I agree with you that many Americans don’t feel the urgency to respond to this crisis. But the number and variety of folks who do feel urgency is increasing over time, what with the growing desperate insanity of the regime. Just look at all the folks from all walks of life joining the resistance in Minnesota. Or the ever-increasing number of everyday people coming out for each No Kings. Many Americans are head-in-the-sand, but their numbers are decreasing over time.
Where we disagree is around concrete demands. Resistance groups have made concrete demands against Avelo, Disney, Sinclair, and so on. And all of them have buckled under the pressure and acceded to the demands. And in many other cases, concrete demands are being made even when the pressure hasn’t quite worked—yet.
nonviolent resistance movements work by putting successive cracks in the regime’s pillars of support
Like tiktok dances?
Lit.
What other NVRM work against Nazi genocide?
Please go back and read the rest of this thread. I’ve included links to find out more about groups working on that. But just one example is multiple cities and counties that, under direct pressure from their citizens, have passed ordinances prohibiting detention centers in their jurisdictions.
So you believe neighbor watches, barricades, and ordinances will put successive cracks in the Nazi’s active genocides?
Yes, those are pieces of of the whole. No single one of those is sufficient by itself, but combined with all the other resistance efforts going on, they will accumulate enough pressure to make the regime topple.
regime
It’s the popularly elected government, that’s been planned for for decades.
Enjoy the genocide you elected for.
3% 320 million is like 9.6 million. I guess they needed another 1.6 million people before the world changes for them.
I’ve been using 3.5% of 335,000,000 million, which is 11,725,000. Figure 12,000,000.
This No Kings was about 8 million, which was bigger than last time. There are also millions of people at home that are committed to the end of MAGA, but won’t go to a protest.
We hit that 3.5% of committed resistance long ago.
I could be wrong but I think the 3.5% protest observations assumes but doesn’t count non-participatory support. So the 3.5% is meant as the number in the streets with some much higher percentage of ‘quiet’ support.
Valid. I’m sure they want that 3.5% in the streets so they can unequivocally claim a Tipping Point (although a Tipping Point is NEVER guaranteed, just possible). No Kings participants want to play down the non-patricipants as not being committed enough, but for many, it simply isn’t possible, due to age, physical limitations, distance, anxiety, etc.
But that doesn’t mean they aren’t just as outraged, and just as committed, and those silent voices of outrage fuel the fire BETWEEN No Kings Rallies. And when the No Kings Rallies are happening, it’s important to acknowledge that the number is much, much higher, meaning those in the streets have an enormous block of silent power behind them. We need to make MAGA understand that as big as those growing crowds are, they are dwarfed by the angry Citizens at home. We need to make them very, very frightened of us.
RhoeriiWe need to make MAGA understand that as big as those growing crowds are, they are dwarfed by the angry Citizens at home.
You mean the same angry citizens that voted Trump in or didn’t vote at all? lol Dude, even if fucking 4% of he population agreed and showed up, that’s still 96% of people not going out and supporting you.
You’re on Lemmy, so you think you see a huge upswelling. Dude, Lemmy is less that even 1/2 of 1/2 percent of the population.
What do you think is being accomplished by these protests. It hardly even made the news this time around. lol So what, one or two articles on apnews, and cnn or any paper. one fucking article on their whole site?
No one cares what you are doing. Regardless of what Lemmy wants you to think. over 90% of the population doesn’t even want to be involved. What do you think is gonna happen.
Every fucking time I have seen a protest or a luigi thing happening, Lemmy shakes with glee and says, “This is it! It’s coming! Time for the Rich to be Eaten!!!”
Annnnndddd nothing has happened. lmao Nothing. Not one change. You all are fucking talking about holding signs in the middle of downtown on a fucking saturday. What the actual fuck do you think that had done?
Want change? Vote. You’re fucking protests are a joke. People literally laugh about you guys out there. Fucking lemmy…
Check out this dork. No use trying to explain anything to a virtuosically ignorant MAGA troll. Anyone who is still on board is just a corrupt, treasonous, racist, ignorant, incompetent, pedophile, completely locked into the concept of “Don’t bother me with facts, my mind is made up.”
Not to take anything away from your primary point, but I’d like a moment to appreciate the phrase
virtuosically ignorant MAGA troll
This is descriptive perfection.
The guy deleted his comment, so I officially won. I find that not engaging their idiotic assertions, and just talking about their stupidity right in front of them is the best response. I just talk to the audience ABOUT them.
I’ve had them keep responding with increasing anger, and I never address them, I just keep making fun of them to the general audience. One guy deleted his entire account.
Bullying MAGA is the only acceptable form of bullying. Pedophile Traitors don’t deserve respect.
In the rare moment I mock a person directly, I usually just do it to their faces; it literally never occurred to me to do the near-miss. Good plan – and I agree, traitors don’t deserve respect.
There are also millions of people at home that are committed to the end of MAGA, but won’t go to a protest.
What are they doing, besides complaining about it?
What are they doing, besides complaining about it?
What is a protest but a whole lot of people gathering to “complain about it?” Nothing actually gets done, nothing is decided, nothing changes. You just let the other side know how you feel. If all the Left has is No Kings, then we’ve already lost. No Kings is a DEMONSTRATION of our numbers, it is not a solution in itself. It’s only meant to scare them with our increasing strength.
Non-protesters are home doing doing the exact same things that No Kings protesters are doing when they’re not at a quarterly No Kings protest. They are keeping up with what’s going on, speaking out every day, in every way possible, posting on line, engaging their family, friends, and co-workers in conversations, spreading the word, giving people alternate information from the Conservative Propaganda Machine, making people understand that they aren’t alone, contacting their elected representatives, etc.
You’d better hope that there are a LOT more committed supporters staying in their homes, because if all the Dems had was No Kings protesters to vote for them, then the election would be 2% Dem, and 98% MAGA.
Is there any effort at the No Kings protests to encourage people to get armed and trained to protect their communities should the need arise?
Militias and Firearms are enshrined in the constitution—it doesn’t need to be a right only thing.
wp:Demographics of the United States
Increase 341,784,857 (2025 official estimate)[1]
331,449,281 (2020 census)[2]
Density Increase 96.8/sq mi (37.4/km2)
3% of 341 million is 10.23 million; but yeah, it seems to be growing.
