simple1d ago
Borderlands 4′s New $30 Expansion Pack Isn’t Winning Over Fans
Show threadgivesomefucks

I used to love Borderlands…

Then they locked characters behind expensive DLC. So I started waiting for the “everything” editions, but then it made sense to just wait for big sales…

And eventually not caring about the franchise.

Its like Crusader Kings or Sims. It’s better than annual releases that don’t really change, but the DLC structure turns people away from the entire game. Even if you wait for a sale, all the “new” DLC stays expensive.

So people put off buying anything till they just don’t care.

Mar 28 at 1:32pmWeb
Show threadRhynoplaz1d ago

I feel you.

1 was fun, 2 was AMAZING, 3 was a disappointment, and 4, I finished the story and haven’t really touched it since.

Show threadrmuk10h ago
See also: Saints Row.
Show threadhydrashok1d ago

Yep. I remember I bought the GOTY edition of the first for $5 during a Steam Sale on a whim. Meanwhile, BL4 is $130 for the “Super Deluxe Editon” to get all the DLC. Even the current 30% off sale brings it to $90.99. It’s insane. Probably one doomed to remain on my wishlist for many years.

I’d rather just replay BL2 with a new character type.

Show threadNelots1d ago
That’s why I just pirated all of the DLC for Stellaris. You can either pay a 10$/m subscription to access all of the DLC, or you can pay $290 to get all of the DLC at its absolute cheapest in a -27% off bundle. Fuck that noise, I don’t like any game enough to spend $300 on it.
Show threadampersandrew1d ago
Why was it not an option to buy just the DLC you wanted?
Show threadNelots1d ago
Fair enough, that is an option. I meant if you specifically want the whole package. Nothing turns me off of a game quite like going to the store page and seeing $300 worth of DLC to go through.
Show threadampersandrew1d ago
Speaking to BL4 in particular, it certainly doesn’t make me feel good to have to parse a chart to see which DLC I have to buy to get the thing that I want, but with Paradox games, I definitely don’t want all $300 of DLC, especially at the start and they’re all in a readable linear list. I think I bought 3 expansions for Cities: Skylines, and the others didn’t speak to me, so especially on a sale, it’s not a high buy-in. The “whole package” would include tons of stuff I had no interest in using.
Show threadNelots1d ago
I’m more of a “grab everything and get rid of the stuff I don’t like next time I play” kind of person. There’s just too much DLC to look through for me to really find what I like, figure out how their systems work with each other and actually feel to play, etc.. Though I will say that if I like a DLC enough and it doesn’t cost too much, I’ll buy it. I think I’ve done that with Nemesis and Utopia so far.
Show threadAgent_Karyo1d ago

I stopped playing Paradox games because of this.

Not mention that there are indie game alternatives that often offer something more innovative (albeit less polished) when it comes to Paradox-style strategy games.

Show threadmassi100813h ago

Then they locked characters behind expensive DLC

Starting in BL2?

Show threadgivesomefucks11h ago

Well…

That is the next game after “Borderlands”…