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Zack Whittaker 2h ago

Yael's post demonstrates something about digital privacy/security that I think a lot of people miss: there is no right answer, just a series of trade-offs. And every person has to make their own decisions about which trade-offs are worthwhile. https://blog.yaelwrites.com/options-for-phones-at-protests/

Options for Phones at Protests

Simply showing up to a protest leaves you susceptible to all sorts of surveillance, including cameras, drones, facial recognition, and more. There's not always a lot you can do about pernicious street-level surveillance, but you do have a lot of choices when it comes to your phone. Because there's no

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evacide 10h ago

There is a reason why most of my advice is phrased "If you are concerned about X...you may want to consider doing Y." It's not because I just love using a bunch of extra words.

Wulfy—Speaker to the machines 10h ago

THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL ADVICE

@evacide "if you are concerned about lack of privacy on your phone, you may want to consider throwing it into the sea"

(/j)

@fxchip @evacide
Keep the potato chip, though; chips are delicious

Kenneth Bousquet 10h ago

@evacide Straight to the point

@evacide Do people not understand that? jeez

ShadSterling 8h ago

@lawyersgunsnmoney @evacide apparently a lot of people use words as if they’re part of some secret code rather than having standard meanings. I suppose it’s like “virtue signaling”, but applying that sort of indirect interpretation to absolutely everything. I think that’s how some people end up making completely absurd arguments in court; they think if they say the right “signals” the court will rule in their favor. I can’t imagine living that way

Yaqub. M 9h ago

@evacide more of a belief in causation of events ;)

Michael Weiss 7h ago

@evacide conscious threat modeling takes effort.

@evacide
" no right answer, just a series of trade-offs."

this.

Disisdeguey🔻PalestineAction🇵🇸6h ago

@evacide Wow so many precautions for a democracy, eh?

RustyFreewheel 6h ago

@evacide Option 1 or 2 and a Cheap Point + Shoot Camera.

Wolf480pl 4h ago

@evacide
> even if your phone is turned off, it will still send out Bluetooth signals to broadcast its location

wtf? where can I read more about that?

🄻🅄🄽🄰 1h ago

@wolf480pl bluetooth and wifi scanning is used to get more precise location data in urban areas

while u are using ur phones location services the device doesnt just listen 2 gps signals,
but also cell towers, wifi and bluetooth signals

both google and apple have big datasets of locations "RF landscape" which on top of gps is used 2 get more accurate location data and whenever you are using their map apps u are contributing 2 that dataset

on top of that if ur logged in with ur personal icloud / google account they can build quite the dataset on u and ur life

Wolf480pl 1h ago

@44
Yeah, I know that. But what you're describing requires the phone to be *turned on*, right?

And I'm explicitly asking about the statement from OP's article that says a *turned off* phone still communicates via bluetooth.

🄻🅄🄽🄰 2h ago

@evacide dont get why meshtastic isnt more popular here.

Turn off ur phones cellular b4 going 2 the protest and stay connected 2 ur friends using meshtastic. the more ppl at protests use it
the more resillient the network gets

Tony Hoyle 1h ago

@evacide "And even if your phone is turned off, it will still send out Bluetooth signals to broadcast its location." That needs an edit I think.. I'm not aware of any device that would do that when switched off.