People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.

@hacks4pancakes Ffff, this thread is how I found out that SFA will only get one more season.

I had mixed feelings about Discovery over its run, but loved SFA immediately. It was my favourite of the live action new Trek series, hands down.

It's wild to me to what degree certain franchise fans don't acknowledge or even *see* who has actually been in their fandom for literal decades, ever since there's been a fandom; before there was an internet, and sometimes before they were on Earth, enjoying something even though it wasn't primarily intended for them.

@hacks4pancakes Thinking it over some more: I'm sure the haters will see this as a personal victory, but it's hard for me to see it as anything other than an inevitable consequence of the current political climate in the US. I was wondering how SFA could survive on a mainstream network during this hard swing back towards conservatism and appeasement, and I guess that I have my answer.

Also: to be clear, I don't want to suggest that shows like SFA and DIS haven't been pulling in a completely new audience (I've heard a lot of anecdotes suggesting otherwise). But Trek has always had a diverse audience, and different Trek fans have always enjoyed and engaged with different aspects of the franchise (it's the space politics and space legal drama for me), and it's always been plainly untrue that Trek is a single thing aimed at a single narrow type of fan.

DS9 was a departure from what had until then been considered "the" formula, and it was great. So were LDS and PRO, and I also liked them. So was PIC, which I thought was a swing and a miss (in very different ways across the seasons) -- but there were things about it that I enjoyed, and despite the parts that I disliked I appreciate that they tried something different. Now that SNW (very mixed feelings) is wrapping up, what's left? A new by-the-numbers nostalgia-fest, or nothing? I'm not optimistic.