Neil Brown16h ago
The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.
Show threadNeil Brown15h ago

Perhaps I am some kind of dangerous computer radical these days, thinking that one should be able to buy or make a computer, install one's choice of OSs and software, create a local user account, and get on with one's affairs, privately and without interference.

Quiet enjoyment of one's computer.

* No age or ID verification

* No jumping through hoops to install software, or third parties restricting the software that one can run

* No third party accounts

Show threadEmily_S

@neil There is exactly one person who gets to decide what happens in my computer. Me.

If you want to run things in my world, you play by my rules and only my rules.

Wait Shit. Am I'm turning in to a conservative, I want things to remain how they were twenty years ago... Is this is what they meant about getting more conservative when you get older?

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Show threadAndrew Deacon15h ago
@emily_s No, Conservatives want things to remain the same because they control them, change threatens that control. You want to control any changes you make, that is different.
Show threadEmily_S15h ago
@aadeacon But I do currently control my computer, and I want to retain that control... I do not want someone else to take away the control I already have over my things
Show thread⠠⠵ avuko14h ago

@emily_s @aadeacon

conservatism in my opinion is about “keeping the systems that control others in place”.

This sounds like you wanting to keep control over your systems in place.

Similar sounding, but completely different.

A 2018 comment by one Frank Wilthoit defined conservatism sublimely:

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:

There must be in-groups whom the law protect[s] but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progressives/#comment-729288

The travesty of liberalism

More in the suddenly topical vein of ‘who will rid us of those troublesome leftists’ from Sean Wilentz. For Chait, the problem is “It’s obvious to me why conservatives want everyb…

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Show threadCassandrich10h ago

@avuko @emily_s @aadeacon Yes, "similar sounding, but completely different".

This is an instance of a general pattern where language is misleading, especially when there's agency and self-referentiality involved. And it's surprisingly effective at manipulating people's values.

Show threadTom 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️13h ago

@emily_s @neil
Doesn't matter what label you put on this attitude, it's principled and it's right.

Get out of my computer!
Get off my lawn!
😅

Show threadKen Milmore11h ago
@tom @emily_s @neil The lawn is probably negotiable tbh. 🐝🐞🪲
Show threadEmily_S10h ago
@kbm0 @tom @neil if a corp wants to take control of my lawn they can fuck off. If a hive of bees wants to take over? sure go ahead. Let me know if you need some heavy lifting.