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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.

@hacks4pancakes Discovery is the only one I've watched a full series of and I take a sick pleasure in letting certain people know this.

I'm not the target audience for these "legacy franchise" things anyway. I'll watch utter muck if it's at least new. But if you are going to do something in a really well-established setting it only makes sense to try something new.

(Andor did this but in a "stories for boys" way so that's allowed, or something)

Joe Alexander 2h ago

@davey_cakes @hacks4pancakes stop letting people tell you that you're the audience for something or not, go actually watch it, this concept that shows like TNG are old so they are exclusive is totally incorrect

Star Trek had the first scripted TV kiss between a black and white character in 1968. Are you not a human being? None of these shows are for only one type of person. That's not how art or society works, stop buying division, it is the problem.

@joe @hacks4pancakes

Got another one!

Joe Alexander 1h ago

@davey_cakes @hacks4pancakes I don't know what you think you got, but I'm 100% sure this is going to be tribal and a symptom of a failing society.

Old Man in the Shoe 1h ago

@joe @davey_cakes @hacks4pancakes Davey is clearly using a fake profile photo

Yes. Having better things to do than watch a 60 year old television programme, one whose fans will tell is patchy as fuck, is the pinpoint of society's failure.

This is a very sensible reaction and definitely not an example of what I'm taking the piss out of earlier.

Joe Alexander 1h ago

@davey_cakes You're right to be willfully ignorant and hateful about identity not understanding where you came from. It's cool to not think for yourself and just dismiss things because they are... old. It's cool how you're for inclusion and dismissing what was, at the time, seen as a civil rights moment... because it's old. You're "inclusive" and good. My man, pretty sure you're agreeing that shows are made or not made for certain people - and if that's what we're doing now, then we're kind of fucked. This is the tribal stupidity we're all dying of.

Just tell me what kind of gold star to wear so I can line up for your gas chambers. I might get "old".

Joe Alexander 1h ago

lol, my man, you're so full of hate..

"one whose fans will tell is patchy as fuck, is the pinpoint of society's failure"

You think it's Star Trek fans, who believe in a moneyless future and the peaceful existence of all different species is the reason society failed? You are a white man, right? Why do you even live if you feel this way, you are prone to genocide, right? I mean, this is such fucking stupidity man, grow up. You're hating fucking autists and a show that showed a diverse cast when no one else would ... to look good for minorities now? That's why you dismissed minorities "then"?

Joe Alexander 1h ago

@davey_cakes even better, you can't even read - I never said a thing about the new/current show - I just said don't dismiss the past you are ignorant of and you're like "nah they are bad" - you're the problem...

@joe enjoy your intellectual baby food

Edit: Jesus fucking Christ

Joe Alexander 1h ago

@davey_cakes this makes no sense and you never read my post before being outraged

Joe Alexander 1h ago

@davey_cakes you are a zero sum idiot, sorry

Old Man in the Shoe 8m ago

@davey_cakes @joe Would you have reject MLK Jr?

@jenzi
Right.

He encouraged the actor playing Uhuru to stick with it because representation mattered, I'm familiar with that.

What does that have to do with me. Today.

Joe Alexander 1h ago

@davey_cakes it's logical collapse that the new show is more inclusive so the old show wasn't -- you're being a real idiot