Molotov Cockatiel Games (Bill)

I understand not every game resonates with everyone, but please explain reviews like this to me. This is for Sea Salt & Paper, a card game. Was the expectation that he'd be allowed to take the cards he wanted every hand? Imagine discovering luck exists in board games. Poker players, you've been going about it all wrong.

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Mar 27 at 7:35pmWeb
Show threadGemini6Ice4d ago

@molotovcockatiel I think it’s fair to review a game poorly if you don’t like it, even if it does what it’s trying to do well. The 1-10 rubric is about how willing you personally would be to play the game, regardless of reason.

That said, they marked it as own. If you don’t like luck, why would you buy a game that’s clearly rummy-esque set collection? I’m not gonna buy a *opoly if I don’t like traditional roll and moves (which I don’t).

Show threadMolotov Cockatiel Games (Bill)4d ago
@gemini6ice Of course everyone has their preferences but giving a card game a '1' because, "just pray you get the cards you need," (literally the description of every card game) sounds more like user error than any fault of the game. 😂
Show threadcetan4d ago
@molotovcockatiel @gemini6ice the only counterpoint I can see is that they were gifted the game instead of buying it on their own. I don't know why someone would buy a game with a mechanic they don't like but then again, the shops are full of things I don't understand why people would buy either so maybe I'm not the best to judge. 😆
Show threadDave Dawkins (D. Harrigon)4d ago
@molotovcockatiel But with poker you're not actually playing the cards you draw. The whole point of poker is the bluffing. Even in Blackjack you have the decision to hit or not. If I roll a die five times and you roll a die five times and I win because I rolled higher numbers, that's not a game. If there's some other activity around those rolls and the numbers are used for different things, that's a game. Game design has to balance being able to do things and just blind rolling to win.
Show threadMolotov Cockatiel Games (Bill)4d ago
@golgaloth You've turned his statement into something else. His complaint is that this CARD GAME makes you "pray you get the cards you need" and that it involves luck. 99.999% of card games do and none of the decisions in poker matter if you never get decent cards (your bluffing will eventually run dry). To complain that this game...the box contains only cards...involves luck and to give it a 1 because of it, is, to me, an absurd statement of a confused person.
Show threadMolotov Cockatiel Games (Bill)4d ago

@golgaloth You can't win at poker if you don't "get the cards you need". You can't win at blackjack if you don't "get the cards you need".

Also I haven't mentioned it yet, but this game actually does have a lot of decision points so even there his review falls short.

Show threadDave Dawkins (D. Harrigon)4d ago
@molotovcockatiel I'm a game designer. Cards, Dice, same thing. Randomness is what we're talking about. Any decent card game will have some way of using cards. Many will be based on higher luck (Poker), others will involve more strategy (Bridge, Arboretum, Coloretto, Sushi Go, most Button Shy games, and a whole bunch of others that only have cards but involve varying levels of strategy). If the reviewer doesn't like high luck-based games, and the game is highly luck-based, the review is valid.
Show threadMolotov Cockatiel Games (Bill)4d ago
@golgaloth He didn’t say that though. His complaint was that you “just pray you get the cards you need”. That’s 99.9999% of card games even if they have varying degrees of decision points around them. The fact that he gave it a 1 for that is telling. Furthermore the game actually has a lot of strategy for a little card game so even from that angle his review is gibberish.
Show threadRagnar Nazebroque4d ago

@molotovcockatiel @golgaloth
I agree

Sounds like the dude was simply angry for no reason.

Show threadroofuskit4d ago
@molotovcockatiel #confidentlyincorrect take on that game. There's a lot of strategy to picking up what you need from the discards.
Show threadHendrik2d ago
@molotovcockatiel how did the account rate Concordia, the card game where you hold all your cards in your hand?
Both a 1 and a 10 would be funny.