@share_sun @fesshole a shoelace is a double-slipped reef/square knot. The first half is the same as a usual reef knot (one lace crossed over then under the other).
For a reef knot, you want to then cross the rope that was on top of the crossed rope in the first half be the top rope again, but it is now on the other side. So if you went right rope crossed over left rope (and then under), for the second half you cross what is now the left rope over what is now the right rope (and under, although in the second half it is just under the new cross and not the original cross)
For a shoelace, this wants to be double slipped so you can untie it easier. So for the lace underneath, you make a loop instead of just using straight rope. For bunny ears, you make 2 loops and complete the knot. Otherwise you make the loop for the lace underneath, then pass the top lace over, and passing it through the loop halfway along the lace instead of the end.
@dshan @share_sun @fesshole to tie the knot you start by laying one rope/lace over the other to form a cross or X (then tuck underneath).
When you do it the second time (usually with at least one side being a loop for shoelaces), you alternate the rope/lace that is laid over the top of the other one before completing the knot.
I assume, that my method is exactly that since even more than 40 years. Now I'm curious what would be wrong with it.
@fesshole I was in my fourties when I learned that there are two mirrored ways of making the knots, one way gives a secure tie and the other keeps slipping loose.
Thanks to the internet I taught myself to change a 40 year habit overnight.
@ngc_ollie I tried teaching myself that one once, but the muscle memory of the 'regular' one I learned during my childhood got into the way.
The Berluti Knot is another knot I'd like to add to the ones I can use, but I fear the muscle memory of the one I use daily, would just get into my way.
Then again, in daily life I prefer shoes with a bit of a stretch that I can just 'pull on' anyway...
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