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Dr. h.c.* Grober Unfug 1d ago

Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

I'm looking forward to seeing these FCC approved US made network appliances where the firmware definitely was not just outsourced to Chinese, Indian, and French* contractors like literally every other network appliance.

(*anything power related has Schneider controllers and everything Schneider has French swearing and Modbus in it, as a rule)

Graham Sutherland / Polynomial 1d ago

actually serious take: the order is incredibly stupid and obviously fuelled by xenophobia and corruption, but I do actually think companies should be forced to disclose the name of the OEM when they sell whitelabelled products, *regardless* of origin, as part of trading standards and consumer protection.

Graham Sutherland / Polynomial 1d ago

this goes for all products, not just computing equipment.

"Musty Bits" McGee 1d ago

@gsuberland I git half way thru this toot before realizing it wasn't the new Star Wars "The Order"

J.P. Stewart 1d ago

IHV -> ODM -> OEM for that matter.

(which, for the purposes of wifi routers is how the code and driver encapsulation usually works.)

Graham Sutherland / Polynomial 1d ago

@jpsays yup. essentially a "significant contributor" BOM for products.

the vessel of morganna 1d ago

@gsuberland @jpsays i would really, really like that

@gsuberland I think it's for telecom style control of communication infrastructure, but yeah white labels have gotten insane.

@gsuberland ...French swearing?

Graham Sutherland / Polynomial 1d ago

@jazzoomazzoo every bit of Schneider firmware I've ever looked at has French comments in it calling something shit.

@gsuberland this rules

Chris Petrilli 1d ago

@gsuberland using chips only sourced from the US, designed by US companies, and US staff.

Right.

@gsuberland
"Putain de bordel de merde de connerie de Modbus de mes deux"

Graham Sutherland / Polynomial 1d ago

@magnetic_tape actually they LOVE modbus, it's always some library they complain about

curtosis 1d ago

@gsuberland “French swearing and modbus” that’s the voice of experience there

Ölbaum 20h ago

@gsuberland At least with French tech, when there’s a backdoor you know it’s not out of malice.

Graham Sutherland / Polynomial 19h ago

@oscherler idk, depends if vupen are involved