@darrell73 That is interesting. I heard that in Europe and US JAWS license is provided for work places and for students. Are you simply used to JAWS or there are specific cases where NVDA doesn't really work in software you use? Great that NVDA works for you!

@Sevapopov @darrell73 I wouldn't say it's provided, because it's not given for free except for a few countries, including Hungary. Here our government supports blind people by providing free licenses to those who apply for it with a hungarian ID. But at work I suppose you have to use either your own license, or the company buys it for you. The problem is that a lot of european companies disallow using NVDA so those who aren't used to Jaws, have to suffer.

@destranis @Sevapopov How do these European companies justify disallowing #NVDA while still using open-source browsing engines?

@darrell73 @Sevapopov You know, that's a valid question. I have no idea. The only thing I know is that for example here in Hungary you can't really work using NVDA, because they generally consider open source programs harmful.

@destranis @Sevapopov Fascinating, so how do they handle open-source web browsers like Chrome and Firefox? Do they ban virtually all web browsers too?

@darrell73 @Sevapopov You are simply not allowed to install anything else. You aren't the administrator of the laptop you get for work and you can't work on your own computer because they fire you. They install aproved browsers for you if they even install any and you aren't stuck with Edge. So literally they set up the laptop for you and even if you wanted to use open source browsers, you can't do it.

@destranis @darrell73 @Sevapopov It sounds like your employer is simply controlling over what software you can use - and that itself is not uncommon anywhere in the world - In almost all cases, that of itself is not anti-open source, rather it is done in the interest of security

@NVAccess @destranis @darrell73 @Sevapopov Any US company with HIPPA and other tight restrictions refuse to use any open source software. :( I can't speak to other countries though.

@NVAccess @destranis @darrell73 @Sevapopov I'm just telling you what I know from working in the healthcare industry and the strictness of HIPPA. NVDA hasn't been allowed. I wish it wasn't such a legal mess to use it because I'd rather it than jaws, but saying you do these things, isn't enough for most agencies. I'm glad NVDA has made huge steps in Europe though. The US may be tougher in many aspects. My understanding of HIPPA is it takes more than just saying you do a bunch of stuff.

@sapphireangel @destranis @darrell73 @Sevapopov And I'm telling you that is wrong. NVDA is used in numerous healthcare settings. HIPAA has nothing to do with open vs closed source. Please provide a link to back that claim up? I provided links to dozens of pages citing using open source programs in HIPAA environments, and the HHS page explaining what HIPAA is which mentions nothing about software licenses. Once again, if your organisation won't allow NVDA, I'm happy to talk with them.

@NVAccess @destranis @darrell73 @Sevapopov I know that NVDA is careful, but unfortunately most won't believe it with how often security breeches happen here. This is why a company takes a huge legal risk using something not well known to the general public. Especially when the gov states concerns of open source. https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/open-source-software-risks-in-the-health-sector-tlpclear.pdf