Adults Lose Skills to AI. Children Never Build Them.

Discussions of cognitive offloading often miss a critical distinction: What AI does to a 45-year-old's brain is categorically different from what it does to a 14-year-old's.

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@cwebber The list with the key points is demolishing.

@cwebber Oooh, this quote, exactly!

"...In my view, the most likely explanation for this is not generational preference but biological development. The older group probably offloaded tasks they already knew how to perform. The younger group offloaded task they never learned how to perform. These neural pathways for source evaluation and constructing arguments were never formed. You can’t atrophy a muscle that was never built...."

@ai6yr @cwebber When mentoring students I often get the question - how do you figure things out so quickly.

Then I tell them that I've been messing with hardware and software since I was in my early teens - and I made tons of (innocent) mistakes.

When you get to be an adult you then know how to approach complex systems where you might not have this much margin.

Much of it is heuristics. Offloading heuristics (despite biases) is a VERY BAD IDEA.

@ai6yr @cwebber Along the same line. I often got the question, what major should I study. I tell them, pick the hardest you can handle (if not a bit more). You will never have as much time to deal with this stuff as during college.
@ai6yr @cwebber One of my life regrets is not studying physics, with a minor in life sciences / biology (rather than having to do it the other way around - which stinks).
@koen_hufkens @ai6yr @cwebber experience: the collection of times when you went "oh, shit..." and filed it under "no, not doing that again, nope" for future reference.
@koen_hufkens @ai6yr @cwebber This is the good case scenario. The bad case scenario is https://circumstances.run/@agturcz/114568845841328174
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@koen_hufkens @ai6yr @cwebber Everything I ever did for a job was noticing patterns and applying them in new situations.
@koen_hufkens @ai6yr @cwebber "I think of the DUMBEST thing possible and then I confirm it."
@cwebber I was having this discussion with co-workers and came to the conclusion that with people relying on AI, things are gonna stagnate. no "new" knowledge will be pumped into the system so it will just be regurgitated slop once people stop thinking for themselves.
@notsle @cwebber Exactly. It's stealing and laundering the theft of human labour, AI depends entirely on humans who don't use it but think for themselves.

@cwebber and there it is: our education system has mostly been designed for compliance. It needs a redesign because humans will follow the incentives. We are not complicated that way. 🐒🍌 We need to incentivize critical thinking.

Thankfully, compliance was never one of my parenting goals. Nor should it be anyone’s.

Cooperation is a much better goal.

@KatLS @cwebber critical thinking is not something schools will ever teach, sadly. It's just not good for ruling/owning classes.
@lizzard @KatLS @cwebber Many schools try. It’s not easy to teach critical thinking. My school certainly tried to teach me, but I was an awful student. I thankfully had a family who found ways to make sure I learned that, if nothing else.
@ClickyMcTicker @lizzard @KatLS @cwebber My AP English teacher had a unit on logical fallacies and how to detect them. The science teachers (especially at AP level) were pretty consistent at teaching how to approach problems critically and not just plug numbers into an equation. All of this in a bland, middle-class public (USA) high school that spent way too much on football and not enough on teachers. Then again, that was also almost 40 years ago.
@dpnash @ClickyMcTicker @lizzard @cwebber I was likewise lucky in the 80s to have at least a few teachers that did this work. Mr. Jayne was the best history teacher ever🩷
@ClickyMcTicker @KatLS @cwebber many teachers try. I'm not so sure about the system as a whole. I'm not even thinking about the US here, I'm not from there. Just as a general class education thing.
@cwebber oof yeah, Sam Altman’s dream, apparently
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Anecdata: Asked a specifying question for my context of a presenter at an event. His answer: “I have set up an LLM to answer questions from these files at this url. Give it a try!”

I did not and I will not.

@cwebber More fodder for the top 1% wealthiest, to squeeze as much out of the masses as they can.

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@cwebber This is the downside of using AI, which gives us everything ready-made, so all mental effort becomes unnecessary, weakening our minds.

@cwebber Dear lord 😞 This is destroying kids and will destroy society if it isn't stopped:

"A child offloading a task they've never learned to perform is not making a choice. They are skipping a developmental step (of critical thinking) that was never developed. The capacity doesn't exist yet. The foreclosure may be permanent—and because they have no independent baseline, they cannot recognize what they're losing."

@cwebber

developers who delegated coding to AI produced working code but failed conceptual understanding

I wish tech industry would have that sink in 

@cwebber I have been developing Adverserial skills....
@cwebber I got round this by lacking skills in the first place. #Winning
@cwebber It’s compounded by prior generations of decreasing education in arts and humanities, leading to adults (parents) who themselves did not learn creative thinking, ethics, or different cultures. I remember 20 years ago a comp sci professor complaining that his university was churning out tech grads with terrible communication skills. Those are now the “45 year olds” whose abilities atrophy “but could recover”. Their kids didn’t stand a chance against AI.
@cwebber I filed this under "Interesting if true". I'd love to believe it.

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Considering that the humans are doing an absolutely terrible job, I figure the AI systems can at least be measured....

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/reading/nation/scores/

NAEP Reading: National Average Scores

NAEP Report Card: Reading

@cwebber Algorithmic complacency kills curiosity and eventually free will.
@cwebber i saw that the other day. I found the author's aside about how they use it to summarize "hundreds" of papers a bit alarming.

@aeva @cwebber yes, he seems way too optimistic about the situation of "adults", himself included, using this technology.

Meanwhile, my university is making LLMs available for students on its platforms with the reasoning, quote:

"The available tools are intended to be used responsibly and treated as support in the process of acquiring knowledge and developing one’s own skills."

... and I want to eat my hat. Students supposed to develop their research skill are sąbotaged by the university.

@aeva @cwebber yeah there was a lot of very confident "well it's okay if *i* do it, i can always spot the problems!"

it's like. can you though. can you spot the problems you didn't spot though. how would that work, exactly

@eniko @aeva @cwebber He even talks about this with children - children cannot spot problems they never encountered before, but an adult learns with every new thing they see too which has the same exact problems and summaries will inevitably omit certain things you may find problematic as a human.
@emi @eniko @cwebber there's also the problem (which iirc the author overlooks) which is what happens when someone repeatedly internalizes noise that statistically resembles information. even if you have the skill to theoretically spot a specific inaccuracy, what happens when you read misinformation restated hundreds of different ways? what happens if you repeatedly scan it without much thought because you're in a hurry?
@emi @eniko @cwebber I imagine the way this works is the skill erosion happens at the edge of your understanding where you can't easily spot it and works its way inward until you don't know anything anymore
@emi @eniko @cwebber and if you really are taking the time to fact check every little thing it says, there is no way there is any efficiency benefit to using the slop machine
@cwebber Being forced to use it, it feels different