josema™6d ago
It's FOSS

I firmly believe this, what about you? 🙂

#linux #archlinux

Mar 26 at 7:27amBuffer
Show threadsebsch6d ago

@itsfoss
Thats some what true.

I did an install lately and encrypted btrfs with several subvolumes worked the first time.

That is not the process I am used to. Need more frustration /s

Show threadaproposnix6d ago
@itsfoss as someone who had to compile everything from the ground up back in the 1990's, I don't see it as an issue. In fact, I never want to have to go through that early experience again. What's the argument for making it more difficult to install? So you can flex?
Show thread$: Iam_jfnklstrm6d ago
@itsfoss Nah! That's gate keeping... lowering the threashold to Arch is a good thing
Show threadBlue Jean6d ago
@itsfoss I like the manual install better, because I like to know how everything works and I need a reminder every so often :) if people want to use a gui, let them. I'll stick with the cli diy.
Show threadIt's "Eve"-lyn   6d ago

@itsfoss
Well, I think archinstall is pretty cool for those who want to use arch but aren't ready for a command line style install. Or who know how to install it that way but just want to skip all the manual stuff.

I like the traditional way because I know what I'm putting on my system and I can quickly and easily configure it the way I want.

I do like the meme though and enjoy the banter that follows. I don't need to feed the trolls on this one, "BTW" 😉

Show threadLobster6d ago
@itsfoss It’s good to learn how to do it manually once so you learn about each component of an OS and know what’s what but not everyone hs the time to configure things every time they do a reinstall. That’s why I love NixOS. I have my config and can set up a machine to use my preferred setup and packages in <30 min and changes stay consistent across machines.
Show threadRoberto Canella6d ago
@itsfoss I agree, but up to a point and I'll explain; to learn how to install and configure ArchLinux (but Linux in general), using archinstall is not recommended. But after you learn how to do it, if you're working (and by working I mean someone pays you for your work) and maybe you want to use ArchLinux to do a Firewall or something, having archinstall that lets you quickly install a minimal version is a nice help, believe me.
Show threadJace6d ago
@itsfoss But for noobs like me, I'd say it helps getting started (Even though I still get lots of trouble while using `archinstall`)
Show threadb1_66er6d ago
@itsfoss it surely took away some of the mystique
Show threadFelix Pehla6d ago
@itsfoss What do you mean? Do you not want your Lego's to come pre-assembled too? /j
Show threadRob Kenjiwhe6d ago
@itsfoss It's still Arch and Arch rules.
Show threadFynnND6d ago
@itsfoss if you don't like it don't use it. No point in removing things others like, just because you don't
Show threadNYCNerd6d ago

@itsfoss Archinstall doesn't support my use case, so I never use it, but Arch still works.

For many people though, I would imagine that having a script makes this tinker-friendly distro more accessible. Arch doesn't carry strong opinions, so user meddling tends not to cause instability. That's the real fun imo

Show threadGarretSidzaka5d ago
@itsfoss
I don't know what that script is and I'm not going to find out
Show threadpaddlaren4d ago

@itsfoss

Installers do indeed take the fun out. But they also bring a lot of frustration of not easily allowing me to setup the system like I want it to.

Beside, there is also the risk of destroying parts of the disks I like to keep.

Chrooted installs is the way.