Lee DunaCPU shortage is 'getting more serious day by day, no less than the memory chip situation' says unnamed gaming PC company
ExcessShivMan I’m so happy I barely game anymore and my home server was rebuilt 2 years ago, hopefully it doesn’t crap out anytime soon 🤞
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yardratianSomaI find myself playing more and more graphically simple games, like schedule 1, crosscode, jackbox, etc. . . And there are many others. I was worried that my pc would be too weak for gaming, but man, there are so many fun games that dont need photorealistic graphics to run. Even NFS 2015 looks great, and isnt hard to run.
Every day, I grow more eager for the inevitable crash of the AI market. Sora getting killed seems like a good portent.
I’ve been listening for this inevitable crash for some time now, but nothing yet. Crossing fingers. Eventually we will all need CPUs, disks, RAM etc.
ShellofbiomatterThe crash will come at some point, but based on the last decade, crypto boom, covid, just greed, now AI. Some new bullshit comes and jacks up the prices even more.
Call me a doomer, but the market is permanently messed up. It will not recover as long as some new player, maybe China, will enter the market.
Call me a doomer, but the market is permanently messed up. It will not recover as long as some new player, maybe China, will enter the market.
cRazi_manCould happen tomorrow, could happen in a year or two. Stay tuned for more updates on the ongoing shit show.
And I feel like this war with Iran will just accelerate it. Lots of AI investment come from Arab countries, right? The ones who are suffering the damage from the war that Israel started because of their alliances.
I’m skeptical about Sora getting killed. I think it’s very plausible that they just privated their model for internal use by the US gov. Sure, it’s one less power hungry AI video generator, but there are multiple of those available already, I don’t think it’s the win most people think it is.
LemmyngGood luck, with Hormuz closed most of Asia’s LNG shipments are blocked (which TSMC relies heavily on), plus other crucial chemicals for the chip making process like helium
I did not have “helium shortage disrupting the tech industry” on my bingo card.
The endless promotion of AI by virtually all tech company CEOs and shareholders, to me, is the most definitive proof that the rich would rather burn it all down than give any compensation, respect and decency to the working class.
Thats the whole point. They are so immensely rich, they could fix most of the world’s and its people’s problems fairly quickly, and still be rich enough to continue to live in unbridled luxury and splendor, while the population would be mostly happy and content with the system. But apparently money is addictive and so they would rather ruin the world and societies by promoting a shit into fascism than give up even a sliver.
Amju WolfI liken it to the dragon sickness Thorin had, an all consuming greed because you can think of nothing else. Stunted mind syndrome?
You’re blaming the wrong people. The issue is on the side of demand - investment funds pour almost infinite money into AI destabilizing the market. Hardware manufacturers are just a cog in this madness
Everyone is a cog in the dang machine. That’s why people criticize capitalism as a system so much
And it’s going to be our downfall
And it’s going to be our downfall
No, it’s self correcting as far as this type of disruptions go. Money will be wasted until it runs out, bubble will burst, and everything will be back to normal
This bubble sure
But our long-term prospect as a civilization…? Much less certain. If systems don’t get replaced by something that works we will end up in an overconsumed climate ravaged neofeudualist cyberpunk style hellscape
daggermoonThis is why i’m building a server with a DDR3/Phenom II motherboard.
I have 96GB of ECC DDR3 laying around with nothing to put it in. I should find some low-power hardware that will take it.
I’ve had the motherboard sitting around collecting dust for awhile. I was looking into buying a NAS until I realized it was a ripoff. Figured why not build a system around POS from 2011.
When I wanted my current server to be available for more experimental loads I decided I needed a new machine and at that time all hdds had gone up in price, but a package of ds225+ with 2x16TB had not yet been price increased so I got the NAS “for free”.
I would’ve repurposed an old gaming machine otherwise.
Worth looking for those kind of “deals” where someone has forgotten to increase a bundle price.
I added 16GB RAM (Crucial 16GB (1x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL22 SODIMM) and the github.com/007revad/Transcode_for_x25 fix to enable proper transcoding for a docker install of Jellyfin and enough RAM to add other “production load” dockers in the future.
Now I can play around all I want on my old server while Jellyfin and SMB shares remain available on redundant drives with automated backups. I’ve also blocked the NAS from the internet in my router now to ensure that Synology can’t “fix” the transcode fix.
“96GB of DDR3” will never really be “low power”, take it from a guy who built a homelab with a DDR3 machines a while ago…but you should still pick up whatever hardware you can as soon as you can. Like, seriously, they’re taking personal computing away from us.
B-bu-buh-buht muh cloud computing, and S3 buckets, and no need for physical, and non-ownership!
This is exactly why I started moving my shit off Proton Drive and into my external hard drive. Yes, the Proton Suite is private and secure, but I want to own my shit.
Also why I’m moving my shit off Bitwarden and onto KeepPass.
Backups are key, Lemmyngs!
Magnum, P.I.Vaultwarden?
versioncTemu will save us all with 3rd party Chinese parts that are cheaper and only slightly buggier and no docs. I’m ready for the fight.
No chipsets from that era that handle 96GB are going to be affordable to run - unless you’ve got excess solar or something.
Move to a colder climate and offset it by using the waste heat!
I’m in Australia. The only thing higher than the mercury is the power bill.
I skipped on solar when building the house. Maybe I should look at doing that. My whole cabinet idles at 100w. The RAM is in an old Cisco 1U server that idles at 130w and is actually slower than my 4th gen core i5 server. It’s never going into prod.
This is goind exactly as planned by big tech.
They dont want you to own your own hardware. They dont want local storage. They want to control EVERYTHING.
When personal computing is expensive enough, they will offer remote access to their server space, where you rent some specs and the screen (your computer access) is projected to you via internet.
Then they’ll earn the subscription money, and they own every single log file and data on “your” computer.
As soon as this is the cheapest option by a margin, they WILL get costumers. No doubt. And it’s awful.
This assumes really good internet infrastructure and still requires some sort of terminal at the user end. Of course, Bezos is a billionaire and so might be dumb enough to believe it himself.
They’ll subsidize cheap locked down thin clients that can do jack shit by themselves except make an RDP connection to a VM.
I was going to say, thin clients are nothing new at all. And they’re already practicing with thin terminal deliveries with TVs these days
I’ll switch to legacy systems before I pay for a subscription service.
The only intense stuff I use is gaming. And I have no issue sticking with lower spec games that can run on a potato.
Big tech is making wayyyy to much money selling artificially inflated parts and pieces, Some people may buy into a second generation Web TV but gamers and builders won’t. ( I know - I was there 3000 years ago when net nanny’s were buying Web TV and I was selling Packard Bells with 4MB RAM).
My wife hit the 15GB Google limit last week. Holy shit.
Her phone storage was full, so:
- Photos were silently removed from the device and uploaded to Google Photos.
- Once it was full, it locked her out of Google services. It even locked her email and took forms offline.
- It then demanded payment to get access to her files.
Google Photos is ransomware by definition.
I ended up doing a takeout, and found that all the photos had the exif tags stripped and I had to re-merge them from a .json file that sat next to it. Otherwise they had no timestamp/location data and no other software would index it.
Fixing the mess required me to alter my photo import program (written in C) and use some scripts I found on github. It was a full weekend project.
I can see why a lot of people will just pay the ransom.
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harkCPU manufacturers were getting jealous at the other hardware manufacturers claiming shortages in this artificial scarcity scenario.
Intel and AMD aren’t claiming shortages. They are switching what they are manufacturing. Companies downstream of them in the consumer space are reporting shortages.
AMD for sure is trying to manufacture mostly server GPUd for AI, but does Intel even have anything competitive in that space?
I assume it sells if they are changing capacity allocations
Intel and AMD have prioritized capacity for server CPUs, and the supply for PCs has become less … what PC players can get in Q2 is much less than the volume we got in Q1.
Its also worth pointing out that TSMC is a bit booked right now and Intel has its own fabs. So if you need a server CPU you may have to buy from Intel if you need it soon.
Allegedly Intel’s CPU performance is improving relative to AMD so it may be getting better.
Ah true, I forgot that AMD needs to compete with other companies wanting TSMC capacity.
I’m on an AM4 platform so if I’m upgrading, it’ll be to a newer and higher core count AM4 CPU, kinda stuck there. I have no appetite for upgrading to a DDR5 based platform, otherwise I’d be sorta considering Intel right now as AMD’s starting to turn on consumers even more than Intel, as was to be expected once they got big enough.
Appoxoas AMD’s starting to turn on consumers even more than Intel,
Prices aside, if they keep releasing on the same socket for some time I’ll consider them a primary option (under the assumption that my motherboard will support it and not dead by then).
Intel mentioned to plan something along those lines but until they are showing proof, I’ll keep them on 2nd place.
RimuAnd then there’s the helium supply shortage, on top of that - https://www.techspot.com/news/111683-critical-semiconductor-gas-lost-third-global-supply-drone.html
RememberTheApollo_And the oil and energy shortage now thanks to trump’s war.